Me 109, Spitfire, Zero or Mustang

Which plane would you fly in a dogfight?


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well it was the best alaround fighter it had the speed truning range altitue weapons porduction speed
 
I would take the 109. then stang. uhh i would take the zeke if i wanted the other guy too get a kill!!!!!!! All i flew the 109 in the sims does that count. how about the Fw-190 dora !!!!!!!!
 
Of those choices i would go with P-51 but the Spitfire isn't in the poll. In a dogfight I think i would pick that. I'm not technical as has been posted but what I do understand is that the spit was well liked by pilots because it was comfortable and pilots felt like an extension of the plane which I believe helps dogfighting. Now as eveyone gets ready to trash such a stupid statement, I understand roll rates, etc. But pilot skill is an important factor and if the plane fits, fly it.

He still hasn't changed that freakin avatar. It creeps me out.
 
As a pure fighter: Bf-109 100%!
As a long range fighter escort: Zero from 41-43, and P-51 from 43-44

One has to keep in mind that the A6M Zero was a first class fighter in 1941-42 and remained competitive up till 1943, infact superior to USN fighters up till then.
 
alder i have read the power of the p-51 and how most pilots were top aces in it
 
The P-51 was a fine a/c which did its job well, however it is often overrated. The P-51 wasn't individually anything special, being out-performed by a good number of German fighters. That having been said the P-51 was a responsive aircraft at the speeds where most of the dogfighting was taking place by 43-45, speeds where the differences in wing-loading between fighters suddenly became irrelevant as neither pilot nor aircraft could take the maximum loads which the lift permitted. This is exactly why the Fw-190 really handed it to the Spitfire in dogfights and often by outturning it.
 
alder i have read the power of the p-51 and how most pilots were top aces in it

Actually the top aces were in the Bf 109.

As for power the Bf 109, Spitfire, Fw 190 and many other aircraft had the same power.

Again I am not saying your pick is wrong. All of these aircraft were fine aircraft and could be considered top.

I just am wondering how you came to your conclusion.
 
The P-51 was a fine a/c which did its job well, however it is often overrated. The P-51 wasn't individually anything special, being out-performed by a good number of German fighters. That having been said the P-51 was a responsive aircraft at the speeds where most of the dogfighting was taking place by 43-45, speeds where the differences in wing-loading between fighters suddenly became irrelevant as neither pilot nor aircraft could take the maximum loads which the lift permitted. This is exactly why the Fw-190 really handed it to the Spitfire in dogfights and often by outturning it.

Soren - pretty good observation. The 51B/C and D had excellent high altitude performance 600 miles from home..

In my opinion the Luftwaffe failed to capitalize on four years experience and let the 8th AF gain it in painless measure - then had to confornt an airplane that could compete over their own airspace with a flood of great students led by increasingly skilled leaders.
 
Agreed. The idiotic top leadership of the LW made sure it was never used to its full potential.
 
Mustang for me, it was about even with the 109 in most aspects (better in some, worse in others) and could chew up the Zero before the Zeke pilot sees him.
 
Quit it. If both pilots were aware of each other and of equal skill the Spitfire Mk.14 @ +21 lbs. boost was the way to go. Low and slow: A6M. Low and medium speed: Bf-109. Fast at any altitude: P-51. Now that's all I got to say about that.
 
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