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Still trying to figure out how the Pe-2 was included in the "list".
The Pe-2 was not intended (nor used) as a heavy fighter, it was a bomber from it's inception that was later multi-purposed, like the Tu-2 and Yer-2.
Wow, what a massive load of bovine fecal matter. You do realize that your first four sentences are total lies/fabrications right? No to mention the ridiculous nature of your last sentence.
But really, don't let facts get in the way of your spurious arguments.
Gotta favor to ask. I still have 3 night shifts to go and to speed things up, I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to post here the squadrons that had the 110s during the BoB. When I get home Wednesday morning I'll start going through that PDF looking for 110 claims. Thanks in advance
If you start designing an aeroplane when the Bf 110 was shooting down bombers it will be in service in the jet age. The only thing these planes have in common is having two engines. They don't all have a single fuselage, since two are twin boom designs. The only one close is the Beaufighter, but that was development of the Beaufort torpedo bomber which was developed from the Blenheim light bomber before the Bf110 was seen at all.The Bf 110 had performed almost all those roles. Now as seen in the gun camera video, the by 110 shooting at allied bombers...do we call it an interceptor in that role or a fighter? Or it doesn't really matter what we call it
No designer would ignore the BF 110 when designing a similar twin engined aircraft
If you start designing an aeroplane when the Bf 110 was shooting down bombers it will be in service in the jet age. The only thing these planes have in common is having two engines. They don't all have a single fuselage, since two are twin boom designs. The only one close is the Beaufighter, but that was development of the Beaufort torpedo bomber which was developed from the Blenheim light bomber before the Bf110 was seen at all.
How do you put a Bf 110 on the drawing board and get a P-38 off it. Much of what governed aircraft design was not actual "aircraft design" but other issues. Engine power was constantly increasing but in 1938-40 you needed 2 engines to do many things. The P-38 was twin engine because you couldn't design an aircraft to do what was wanted with 1 engine at the time but you could a couple of years later. Radio design meant that verbal communication was very short ranged so you needed a "radio operator" actually a morse operator which obviously cannot be the pilot, two seats means 2 engines with 1938 engines. Cannon design meant that you didn't have belt fed cannon that could be put in the wings of an aircraft on the allied side until 1940-41, so cannon were put in the nose or belly of twin engine "heavy fighters". The Whirlwind was close to the Bf 110 heavy fighter concept but it first flew in 1938 so cannot possibly be a copy in any way. There is such a thing as convergent evolution, seen in biology where animals that do similar things look similar even though they not at all connected. It is the same with aircraft. Almost all twin engine d aeroplanes will look similar and will be pressed into doing similar things without having any connection.They were still on the drawing board
The Hurricane was not to be replaced by the Spitfire, both were to be replaced by the Typhoon/Tornado as planned in 1938, by 1940 the Merlin was producing almost as much power as the Vulture and the Sabre engine was running into problems too The Typhoon itself had issues so the Spitfire became the fighter of choice by default. The Hurricane was produced in such numbers mainly due to the absence of any other, where no first line fighters were opposing it, it was still effective in the ground attack role, anything with 4 cannon is.Speaking of numbers, it was already common knowledge that the hurricane is obsolete and even slower than the BF 110, and to be replaced by the spitfire. So, when did they build 15,000 hurricanes? I can understand 23,000 spitfires, but 15,000 Hurricanes?
The Hurricane was not to be replaced by the Spitfire, both were to be replaced by the Typhoon/Tornado as planned in 1938, by 1940 the Merlin was producing almost as much power as the Vulture and the Sabre engine was running into problems too The Typhoon itself had issues so the Spitfire became the fighter of choice by default. The Hurricane was produced in such numbers mainly due to the absence of any other, where no first line fighters were opposing it, it was still effective in the ground attack role, anything with 4 cannon is.
Who mentioned 1942 and what aircraft are you talking about?Up to 1942? So they had how many in 1940.
HurricaneWho mentioned 1942 and what aircraft are you talking about?
At which part of 1940? At the fall of France the RAF had about 250 in front line service, despite all that had been made up to then. Its main advantage was that it was easy to make and repair. Throughout the Battle of Britain a shortage of aircraft wasn't a problem, despite all S/E aircraft losses to all causes they finished with 200 more in frontline service (Spitfires and Hurricanes).Hurricane
No designer would ignore the BF 110 when designing a similar twin engined aircraft
I'll reply to both your posts in one, by Wikipedia, the Allies produced 786,500 a/c whilst losing to all causes as far as I can tell, ~243,600 which is the U.S, U.K. and U.S.S.R. losses combined.
It is now a well known fact that they performed the worst piece of industrial espionage and counterfeiting in engineering history. Apart from the location and orientation of the engines and materials used what do they have in common?And you know this how? Kelly Johnson, as did Jack Northrop and Vladimir H. Pavlecka wrote extensively about the development of the P-38 and P-61 and never mentioned an influence of the Bf 110. !"