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You misunderstood.
There was a variant of the He-100 with an enlarged radiator in a deepened fuselage intended for license production in Japan.
I meant that this might be where he is getting the idea that the "D-1" had no surface cooling. In reality the later production block aircraft possessed tweaked versions of the cooling system from the v series.
If you examine the D-0/D-1 closely, you'll find that there is an opening below the spinner, in the "chin" area. In several factory photos, traces of oil can be seen coming from this area, especially after tests. Also, in comparing factory photos of earlier types to the D-1 types, there is a noticable increase in the radiator's size...particularly width-wise.What are you implying GrauGeist? That the D had a larger radiator?
If you examine the D-0/D-1 closely, you'll find that there is an opening below the spinner, in the "chin" area. In several factory photos, traces of oil can be seen coming from this area, especially after tests. Also, in comparing factory photos of earlier types to the D-1 types, there is a noticable increase in the radiator's size...particularly width-wise.
The frustrating thing about following the He100 project, is that virtually no factory documentation or work notes survive, so it requires a great deal of detective work to solve some of these mysteries.
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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you or the author got something wrong as I have found nothing to support that the Japanese bought D-1's (the version without surface cooling prevalent in all previous versions).
Also, take a look at this:
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The D-1's radiator looks clearly bigger to me.
So did the earlier block of He100 airframes. But according to several authors, there is debate about this larger inlet on the D series and the fact that there isn't evidence of oil tracing on the earlier series.That opening just below the spinner is to allow cool air into the engine compartment. It has nothing to do with the oil cooling system.
The 109e series had similar vents.
That's also part of my point: with proper strategic planning/logistics management, etc, Messerschmitt would NOT have gotten priority for engines like they historically did, and the Bf 109 should have been replaced by something better following the E/T models ... or at least they should have been trying very hard to stop production in favor of something more potent as both a defensive and offensive weapon. (if DB-601N/E/605 powered He 100 and Fw 190 derivatives proved genuinely worse than the existing 109F/G series -not just in speed/climb, but firepower, range, visibility, dive performance, and handling -on the ground and air- then they'd have been still stuck with the 109, but I see that as rather unlikely -there's the Fw 187 to consider as well, especially as a defensive weapon)The Fw 190 was built because of the radial engine. It would have shared the same fate as the He100 if it took engines away from the Messerschmitt.
Even a poor performing He 100 dragged down with armour and cannon would still have been one of the fastest machines of its day and superior to the P-40 and 109E. The question...is whether in a 1944 timeframe would a 109 be better than a 100? A silly question to ask in 1940 but I suppose that is what its about.
This is all true except for the surface cooling aspect. All versions used pressurized steam cooling systems, but only some of them used surface cooling (both for condensing and -more so, I believe- simply cooling the hot, pressurized liquid coolant) as well as surface cooling for oil in the rear fuselage. (non-evaporative in this case)The cooling system in the all built versions of the He-100 used evaporative, ie condensing steam in the wings, for cooling. The tiny retractable radiator was added between the wing header tank circuit, and offered negligible cooling when retracted.
We know that the last production block (D-1) used this system as photos of the engine bay exist that show several features related to the steam cooling system.
Indeed, and the portion labeled 3 may be the oil header tank or just an expanded portion of the oil cooling system with the rear fuselage being insufficient? (I recall that being mentioned as well)I believe in the above drawing the items labeled 2 are fuel tanks, the items labeled 1 are part of the cooling system. Not sure on item 2. Areas on rear fuselage, fin and horizontal stabilizers are part of the oil cooling system.
Some of the late series aircraft got a fuel tank added behind the cockpit.
Indeed, though allowing the areas relegated to surface cooling be filled with fuel tanks (as with the P-38's intercoolers) this difference could at least be partially offset, in spite of the difficulties of flat fuel tanks.The issue with the wing fuel tanks and self sealing is the shape. Large area but flat tanks require a greater weight of self sealing material for their capacity that squaty fat tanks. And the loss of capacity is proportionally greater when the hight is fixed ( wing thickness).
I don't think it would be a very good plane to target 1940 or in place of the 109E (or T if they'd made more of them) but as a compliment to the 190 and alternative to the 109F entering production at all.I am not worried about the cannon's weight, I would be worried about it actually working in 1939 and 1940. If it doesn't (and the 109s engine cannon didn't work in those years) you are down to the two machineguns or if we are feeling charitable, four MG 17s in the wing roots.
I would also be worried about the effect of self-sealing tanks. I have the book in question and it doesn't say one way or the other. However most if not all of the He 100s were completed in 1939 with the last ones finished in very early 1940.
That opening just below the spinner is to allow cool air into the engine compartment. It has nothing to do with the oil cooling system.
The 109e series had similar vents.
Indeed, and any streaks on the cowling below the engine very well could have been oil as well, from the engine itself, and by no means evidence that the oil cooling system was near the nose.The Bf 109E also have had the shallow inlet just under the spinner, plus of course the inlet for the oil cooler itself - picture.
Sure...Heinkel looked to Messerschmitt for his own designs so naturally they'd be identical, right?
One thing I missed on previous discussions on the P-39's wing tanks was that the XP-39 had lacked any provision for guns in the wings and could thus rely on the outer wing panels for fuel where the production models carried the 4 M1919s and 1000 round capacity ammunition boxes. (the higher weight to volume ratio for the P-39's tanks compared to the P-40's would still be relevant, of course -flat tanks are heavier than tub tanks of the same volume) In fact, if the He 100 was anywhere near (or better than) the drag characteristics of the P-39, it would have been a winner, over the 109 at least. (powered by engines on the level of the 109F and G ... hell, even the contemporary Jumo 211 models would be better than what the engines the P-39 was getting throughout the war, same for the sluggish WEP ratings -at least compared to British practice)
I'll just make some points here rather then quoting. It doesn't work properly on this phone browser.
Some He-100s were fitted with 601a series engines.
The D-1 and D-0 subtypes are misnomers. The proper name, per heinkel documents is A-0. This was a small run of mostly handbuilt machines in three production batches. Sometimes an earlier batch machine would be modified to later batch standards. This happened to 3 sold to the Soviet Union.
All the He-100s produced were equipped with the surface cooling in the wings as well as the oil cooling in the fuselage. This is most definitely true of the A-0 run (with on caveat) and is known from photos of the engine bay of A-0s as well as photos of A-0s showing heavy weathering on the paint in the exact places where the surface cooling is located.
Caveat from above: Heinkel documents indicate that 6 of the A-0 machines were planned to be set aside for wing radiator experiments. There are some heinkel drawings of this, and a photo of a He-100 with 177 style leading edge radiators.
Landing gear troubles plagued the He-100 throughout its life. It was a complicated mechanism that was redesigned at least once. Finally the gear was altered so that the legs were interchangeable between sides.
The vent on the underside of the spinner is not heinkel copying messerschmitt but arriving at a similar solution to the same problem. That vent went through a number of variations and modifications. Similar vents can be spotted on virtually every 601 engined plane I can think of.
If I remember right tsagi tested out a whole bunch of aircraft in its windtunnel and found the p-39 to be the lowest in c/d.
As for the wing radiator.
http://i62.tinypic.com/i2ixsg.jpg
This may have been nothing more then a trial installation.
As for the wing radiator.
http://i62.tinypic.com/i2ixsg.jpg
This may have been nothing more then a trial installation.
That opening just below the spinner is to allow cool air into the engine compartment. It has nothing to do with the oil cooling system.
The 109e series had similar vents.
The oil seeping out of the intake in the bottom of the nose ring hints at the possible location of a conventional, auxiliary oil cooler. No photographs in which this small Blockkühler is clearly visible have been found.