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Parmigiano said:.. just some points about German tech achievements...
- Germans were maybe not the first in patenting a jet (I believe F. Whittle did it before Von Ohain) but were the first to actually fly a jet powered experimental plane (He 178), a fighter jet prototype (He 280) and at least two serviceable jet planes (Me 262 and Arado 234).
- German Jet engine design was the 'right' one (axial flow), British design was a dead end (centrifugal flow). History has proved that.
- Ejection seat was standard on Heinkel 219 night fighter and on Arado 234 Blitz (jet reconnaissance bomber), way before any other nation
- swept wing theory was presented in a meeting in Rome around 1935 by a German guy (don't remember details but I can document it once I get home). Research on swept wing planes was way ahead in Gemany by 1945, production designs were ready to go in production. No other nations was even close to that.
- Also the famous 'area rule' for supersonic flight was an outcome of Dornier (or Heinkel? not sure, i am going by memory)
There is little to argue about the fact that German aeronautical research and technology in 44-45 was far advanced than any other nation.
Luckily they did not had the chance to translate all this in industrial output.
Parmigiano said:..- swept wing theory was presented in a meeting in Rome around 1935 by a German guy (don't remember details but I can document it once I get home). Research on swept wing planes was way ahead in Gemany by 1945, production designs were ready to go in production. No other nations was even close to that.
Parmigiano said:Ok PD, in 1982 Italy won 3-2 with Brazil in one of the best soccer match ever played in a world cup.
Countless discussions followed, where Brazil supporters stated that their team was actually the best, and would had won 8 out of 10 times with Italy.
But they had no proof, since the two teams never met again with the same players, and it was useful to me to bring this point...
... but I KNOW that they were right !
Sounds similar to some of the discussions in this forum?