Measles

[gumbyk]

You might have a right not to be vaccinated, but I should have a right to say that in that case you won't be able to visit my country. Kill your own children.

Well, now in Samoa you don't have that right, everything's in lockdown and they're going door-to-door with mandatory vaccinations. They've arrested one anti-vaxxer for inciting.

The thing is, we've got Samoan workers here in NZ who can't get vaccinated, because they're not on a priority list. And they've got to go back before Christmas.

 

[mikewint]

Measles per se does not cause deafness but... according to the CDC there are two complications that can occur during a measles infection: 1 in 10 children infected with measles will develop ear infections which if severe can lead to partial or permanent deafness. Secondly 1 in 1000 children will develop a swelling of the brain (encephalitis) which can damage/destroy the auditory nerve leading to deafness.
those younger than 5 or older than 20 are most at risk for complications.
Then again prior to the vaccine the only way to develop an immunity was to contract the disease so parents commonly deliberately exposed children to mumps, measles, and chicken pox at an early age when the diseases were much less severe than if contracted as an adult

 

[swampyankee]

i'll weigh in on this as i have a dog in this fight. this is one of the areas like politics, religion, sports that people on either sides have dug in and are hard nosed about. i dont know about research done or not done....journalists sensationalizing and scaring the masses. all i know is what my grand daughter went through. born a normal child and everything progressed along the usual time tables. my daughter and son in law were diligent about getting check ups and shots. after the last round of shots they noticed a marked change in her demeanor although they never said anything to us. when they came to visit i couldnt help but notice there was something different about her and said so to my wife. we both thought it was some sort of ADHD or autism. unbeknownst to us my daughter and son-in-law took her to a specialist and did some testing. they tested for heavy metals....a test blue cross pays for unless you are looking for traces of mercury. it seems the vaccines now a days are processed or preserved with mercury. i will spare you the long version...but a couple years of detoxing and therapy and she is as normal as any other child. there are no residual after effects. this camp of people...at least the ones we are have association with....do not say NOT to inoculate but tell you to use the older style vaccine that is not process like the one commonly used. you can say what you will and you may be right. i know what my eyes have seen and i also know the medical community changes its mind quite often. but all my future grandchildren will be inoculated...but with a different vaccine.

Thimerosol is no longer used in MMR or DPT vaccines.

 

[gumbyk]

Thimerosol is no longer used in MMR or DPT vaccines.

Not only that, but it was bound up at a molecular level, so wasn't absorbed by the body. How many of us had amalgam fillings in our teeth as kids?

 

[swampyankee]

Not only that, but it was bound up at a molecular level, so wasn't absorbed by the body. How many of us had amalgam fillings in our teeth as kids?

Not just as kids; it's still used. You're probably getting more mercury from fish or coal-fired powerplants.