Merlin powered carrier fighter other than Seafire

[nuuumannn]

we had the rum tot whilst you guys were strictly dry ships. wheres the fun in that...

Ha haaa! Touche!

 

[FLYBOYJ]

F4F perforamnce chart Dated 1 July 1943. Has anyone seen this? Compare to the earlier posted data...

http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F4F-4_Wildcat_ACP_-_1_July_1943_(Tommy).pdf

 

[Kevin J]

Looking fo suggestions on another Merlin (or Allison) powered single seat carrier fighter with performance comparable to land based fighters.

Rules for this discussion.
H*ll has frozen over and the American Navy is willing to consider a liquid cooled engine on a carrier, so do not limit to British designs.
We need not limit ourselves to designs that can operate from short slow escort carriers. Assume fleet carriers with decent wind over a long deck.
I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A THREAD DISCUSSING THE SEAFIRE I am looking for a liquid cooled carrier fighter that is not a Seafire.

Should we navalize the P-40?? A single seat Defiant with fixed wing guns and without the turret?? Is there a 'easy' fix that would make the Mustang suitable for carrier use by average avaitors?? Was there a 'paper airplane' on the drawing board???

I will start. The American Navy tested a P-51D Mustang with an arrestor hook. They found that reasonable landing speed for that version was too close the limits on wartime arresting gear. It would have been too much of a handful for average pilots. My suggestion would have been to navalize the Allison powered Mustang I / P-51A. These early Mustangs were over a thousand pounds lighter than the Merlin Mustangs and therefore having a slower stall and landing speed than the Merlin Mustangs. Wide track landing gear, and oh... up to an altitude of 20000 feet faster than that Merlin engined carrier fighter that we will not talk about.

No one mentioned the F5F, LOL.

 

[Kevin J]

Looking fo suggestions on another Merlin (or Allison) powered single seat carrier fighter with performance comparable to land based fighters.

Rules for this discussion.
H*ll has frozen over and the American Navy is willing to consider a liquid cooled engine on a carrier, so do not limit to British designs.
We need not limit ourselves to designs that can operate from short slow escort carriers. Assume fleet carriers with decent wind over a long deck.
I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A THREAD DISCUSSING THE SEAFIRE I am looking for a liquid cooled carrier fighter that is not a Seafire.

Should we navalize the P-40?? A single seat Defiant with fixed wing guns and without the turret?? Is there a 'easy' fix that would make the Mustang suitable for carrier use by average avaitors?? Was there a 'paper airplane' on the drawing board???

I will start. The American Navy tested a P-51D Mustang with an arrestor hook. They found that reasonable landing speed for that version was too close the limits on wartime arresting gear. It would have been too much of a handful for average pilots. My suggestion would have been to navalize the Allison powered Mustang I / P-51A. These early Mustangs were over a thousand pounds lighter than the Merlin Mustangs and therefore having a slower stall and landing speed than the Merlin Mustangs. Wide track landing gear, and oh... up to an altitude of 20000 feet faster than that Merlin engined carrier fighter that we will not talk about.

No one mentioned the Defiant or Miles M. 20/2. Is that because:
the Sea Defiant would be no faster than a Sea Hurricane and less manoeuvrable ;
the Miles M. 20/2 would rot in the sea salt spray?

 

[Admiral Beez]

Looking fo suggestions on another Merlin (or Allison) powered single seat carrier fighter with performance comparable to land based fighters.

The Merlin-powered Curtiss P-60 might have merit.

Curtiss P-60 - Wikipedia

Or the twin P-40, swap in some Merlins.

 

[GregP]

I'm thinking maybe an Allison-engined CW-21-type aircraft. Sort of like the Vultee that was an Allison test mule for the V-1710, but with one seat instead of three. The development would not have been difficult, and although the performance might not match the more well-developed landplanes, it would have handily outperformed Navalized a P-40. But, then again, this animal never DID exist, so a "what-if" isn't too far off base.