Nose Art in WW1?

[cwebster4]

You are most welcome.

Some other names to check out:
Ernst Udet, Jasta 4
Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b
Bruno Loerzer, Jasta 26
Paul Baümer, Jasta "Boelcke"
Helmut Dilthey, Jasta 40

By the way, scantily clad women were not unheard of in those days.

Here, Spanish Ballerina Encarnita Alcarez strikes a risque pose with an aircraft in the 1920's:
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Well, Vah, Vah, Vah Voom!!! Maybe she is the first Flapper!! or Hugh Hefner's mom? I love this photo. Do you have a source?

 

[cwebster4]

On the ground at Toul, France, 17 March 1916, in front of MF.11bis named 'The Kangaroo' and decorated accordingly:
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Pilot is in the middle and is an Australian - Oswald Watt.
Copied from here.
Farman F.40 bis N° "10""Brownie":
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Copied from here. The latter site gives you a lot of possibilities to search for real nose art, not nose markings.
You migh have better luck finding photos by type rather than under "nose art". It's a tedious work but with "Farman F.40" for example I "scored" the above and many more photos.

These are great!! Thank you, and thank you for the link. My life just got exponentially better because of you and the others in this group!!

 

[MikeMeech]

Hi
And here are a couple of French escadrille markings (From 'French Aircraft of the First World War' by Davilla & Soltan) :

Voisin 10 in VB 125 markings (page 564). Reference number for source at end of photo text "B76.1932".

Voisin 10, serial V 2783, VB 109 markings (page 565). Reference to source at end of photo text "Renaud"

Mike

 

[buffnut453]

There's this rather splendid Bristol F2b Fighter, although it was more of an overall paint scheme, with fish scales over the rear fuselage:

Here's a model of one that shows the scheme more clearly than the poor quality image above:

 

[cwebster4]

Hi
And here are a couple of French escadrille markings (From 'French Aircraft of the First World War' by Davilla & Soltan) :
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Voisin 10 in VB 125 markings (page 564).
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Voisin 10, serial V 2783, VB 109 markings (page 565).

Mike

Thank you, sir. Does the book give sources? I'm going to be reaching out to the German, Belgium, French, UK, etc. Archives to see what I might be able to obtain.

 

[buffnut453]

A (to modern eyes) politically incorrect BE2:

 

[buffnut453]

Another Chaplin depiction, this time on a BE2 (not as good as the example up-thread):

 

[cwebster4]

There's this rather splendid Bristol F2b Fighter, although it was more of an overall paint scheme, with fish scales over the rear fuselage:

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Here's a model of one that shows the scheme more clearly than the poor quality image above:

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THAT IS INCREDIBLE and fits right in to my subject. Is that a model or the real aircraft? And if it's the real aircraft, where is it located? Absolutely beautiful.

 

[buffnut453]

THAT IS INCREDIBLE and fits right in to my subject. Is that a model or the real aircraft? And if it's the real aircraft, where is it located? Absolutely beautiful.

The colour image is a model. It's very well done, indeed.

Here's another German example of nose art:

 

[cwebster4]

Thank all!! I feel like I've hit the Mother Lode!!! It's Christmas in March!!
My hat's off to all y'all

 

[buffnut453]

Another BE2 with "Old Bill" artwork:

 

[buffnut453]

Fokker Dr1...this one's an actual restored/new build airframe:

And here's the original on which it's based, with Werner Voss the pilot:

 

[buffnut453]

DH4 of 166th Aero Squadron:

 

[MikeMeech]

Hi
Not quite 'nose' but certainly 'art' and more in line with USAAF WW2 markings, from 'Russian Aviation Colours 1909-1922' Vol. 3 Red Stars:

Page 133, previously a Russian (Red air force) aircraft, but taken over by Poles with art intact.

Page 137, again a Russian (Red Air Force) aircraft taken over by Poles with art intact.

Mike

 

[GrauGeist]

Well, Vah, Vah, Vah Voom!!! Maybe she is the first Flapper!! or Hugh Hefner's mom? I love this photo. Do you have a source?

Unfortunately, the website this came from (six years ago) no longer exists.

 

[cwebster4]

Unfortunately, the website this came from (six years ago) no longer exists.

That certainly is unfortunate

 

[cwebster4]

Hi
Not quite 'nose' but certainly 'art' and more in line with USAAF WW2 markings, from 'Russian Aviation Colours 1909-1922' Vol. 3 Red Stars:
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Page 133, previously a Russian (Red air force) aircraft, but taken over by Poles with art intact.
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Page 137, again a Russian (Red Air Force) aircraft taken over by Poles with art intact.

Mike

Thank you. These certainly go against the common perception that the earlier generations were somewhat prudish. But if you think about it, as the 20th arrived we were entering the Edwardian period that was the opening for the flappers of the 1920s. So, although a bit surprising for me to see scantly clad women or somewhat naked women on the side of an aircraft, I can it really is the opening salvo of the 20th century world opening up after the locked down Victorian era. These are quite informative

 

[GrauGeist]

It's also interesting to note that Kurt Monnington's paint scheme on his D.V was considered "dreadful" and "macabre" for that time period while the scheme and colors would have fit in perfectly just 20 years later (and even by today's standards).

 

[cammerjeff]

I always liked the work on Roland C-2's

Source WW1 Wings of Glory Airplane Packs - Roland C.II Preview - Ares Games

source LFG Roland C.II

 

[SaparotRob]

A combat aircraft with curtains. Nice.