Out of the Big Three WW2 bombers (B-17, B-24, Lancaster), was the Flying Fortress the most redundant? (1 Viewer)

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I have never done the calculations, but I have read that if the B-17F/G had deployed for operations with 17,600 lb bomb loads the normal 85 Impgal Spitfire would have been able to effectively escort it to target and back. I think this indicates that the effective B-17F/G ROA with 17,600 lbs bomb load would be about 100 miles.
 
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As I think you saw in my point, not about facts but perception, the reason why they were phased out is obvious but at the time it "went with the territory" no blame attached to tail wheels as there was with nose wheels.
 
Merlin powered Wellington Mk IIs started dropping 4,000 lb HCs in April 1941.
 
As I think you saw in my point, not about facts but perception, the reason why they were phased out is obvious but at the time it "went with the territory" no blame attached to tail wheels as there was with nose wheels.
My father in law (18,000 hours, 20 years USAF, B-1 test pilot, United Air Lines 15 years) was the most humble man I ever met - one time told me "you're a REAL pilot because you could fly a taildragger!"
 
So just a bit further than a P-39?
 
From the USAAF Statistical Digest


It doesn't list 1942 but it would appear that the 4000 lb and up bombs were the exclusive province of B-29s



Correction, the B-17 carried the 4500 lb bombs. They were the rocket assisted "Disney " bombs developed by the British but used exclusively by B-17s.
 
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There had to be donkeys involved somewhere.
Not that I saw, but there were ground squirrels milling about, so you know they were the poor sobs doing the hefting!

Anyway, found some of my earlier posts with pix and info, and I was wrong about the date above, as the 303rd BG out of Molesworth, was carrying external 4,000 pounders into France in 1943.

 
More info/pix.
(The links look the same, but they'll land you directly on my post)

 
Now, on this link, my post shows the armorer's bomb loading chart.

Note that the B-17 could carry two 2,000 pounders internally as well as two 4,000 pounders externally for a 12,000 pound load - this was not it's max., but the larger bombs were found to create considerable damage not by the blast alone, but the subsequent shockwave that the blast created.
This was something the RAF built on with their "HC" series of bombs, often called "cookies".

 
Yeah but the P-39 had an armored nose! That must have helped!
 
Hey GrauGeist,

While the external racks could carry 4000 lb bombs, as far as I know they never did on operations. Have you run across photos of the B-17F/G wiht 4000 lb bombs on ops? If so, do you know the mission or how far to the target?

The most I have run across (not counting the Disney bomb mentioned above) was 2x 2000 lb in the bomb bay, and 2x 1000 lb external (1x under each wing).
 
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Click the link on post #334 and #335 above.
You'll see 4,000 pounders in action.

From summer 1943 onward, they bombed French targets and further inland as the war progressed.
 

The B-24 could also be equipped with under-wing bomb racks which could take a 4,000-lb bomb. There is a photo of that bomb weight on such a rack on page 29 of the book I have mentioned previously. The caption reads, "De-mountable Liberator wing rack for carrying 4000 pound bomb. Elgin Field found the idea operationally unsuitable."
 

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