P-40 with Griffon engine

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Beautiful plane, but a day late and a dollar short.
Sometimes it's fashionable to show up late to the party, sometimes not.
 

The single stage Merlin usually had a 10.25" impeller.
IIRC the cropped impeller Merlins had a 9.5" impeller.
The Merlin 47 had a 10.85" impeller.

The two stage Merlins had a larger first stage.
The Merlin 61 had 11.5"/10.1" impellers.
Merlin 63 (?) onwards had 12"/10.1" impellers.
Merlin RM.17SM had 12.7"/10.7" impellers.

The Vulture had a 12" diameter impeller.
 

Has anybody else heard about Packard Merlins being pulled in favour of Rolls-Royce Merlins?

Later model engines? Lancasters had XX series Merlins except the Mk II (Hercules) and a small number with 2 stage engines.

The main versions of the Lancaster were the B.I and B.III. The B.III was almost identical to the B.I except it had the Packard engines and controls modified to suit.

All Canadian built Mosquitoes had XX series Merlins.

The Spitfire IX with a Packard engine became the Spitfire XVI.

Of the 55,000+ Merlins made by Packard, the majority were sent to the UK. More than half, maybe 2/3,
 
I've heard people TALK about one Merlin being better than the other (British or U.S.) but, in practice, I've never heard of one being pulled for the sake of National origin. I would not rule that out during WWII, but have personally never heard of an actual incident of an engine being changed just for National pride. I fully believe someone might swap out one engine for another one when the engine was pulled anyway due to damage or overhaul or whatever, but pulling a perfectly good-running engine for that reason alone might completely alienate your crew chief ... not something anyone but an idiot would do on purpose.

As for the reality of British versus American, all Merlins had to pass testing at factory settings. I think there are likely more U.S. Merlins in the U.S.A. and likely more British Merlins in Europe just because the majority of flying warbirds over here are U.S. warbirds and I'd assume the majority of flying warbirds in Europe are of European origin. I could be wrong about Europe, but have been to enough U.S. airshows to say the majority here are U.S. warbirds because that is what was available here when they came to the civil market. I'm assuming that British warbirds, for instance, were the main warbirds available in the U.K. when THEY came to the civil market, but I have no real personal knowledge of that as I have never looked very hard at British civil warbird history.

I HAVE seen at least three U.S. Allisons get built-up and sent to Russia for use in former Soviet warbirds. Two of them are in an Il-2 and a MiG-3. Not sure about the third one, but seeing a former Soviet WWII warbird flying is way cool regardless of the engine in it. I'd love to see several sets of parts for a Mikulin AM-35/38 along with drawings and manuals come here to a good shop, but I have never heard of a stash of WWII Soviet engines or parts. There are a few in museums, but that is not enough of a potential population to start an overhaul company with.
 
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I think a lot of modern pilots make their WWII planes look smaller by wearing a bigger hard helmet instead of the leather helmets they wore back in WWII. Makes the pilot look bigger so the plane appears smaller. I don't know.
 
If something happens, a modern jet helmet gives WAY more head protection than an old leather helmet as well as having built-in electronics for communications and hearing protection. That's a win-win for the pilot regardless of how authentic it may not be.

There was a guy (Steve Appleton) out there with a full glass panel in a two-seat Hawker Hunter. It wasn't authentic and also had an uprated engine, but was a wonder of functionality. Unfortunately, he was later killed in the crash of a Turboprop Lancair IV in Boise, ID.

Improvements when the aircraft is out of military service are actually improvements.
 
Steve Hinton is one of the higher-time warbird pilots in the world. He should sound familiar if you are a WWII - Korean War-era aircraft fan. Being the president of the Planes of Fame, he flies everything in our flyable inventory, from the Boeing P-26 Peashooter to the A6M5 Model 52 to the F-86 / MiG-15-bis and a lot more including many first flights of just-restored warbirds.

I'm not too sure if Steve was or is a member here, but he pays attention to a lot of things and I would not be surprised to find him in here. Neither would I assume he has time to read threads arguing about what-ifs that never happened. He seems firmly rooted in what is real and flyable, but you never know, do you?
 

Elvis may have been referring to Steve Appleton, who was mentioned in your post prior to this.
 
How the P-39 and P-40 were deployed is a debate for another time. And there were quite a few Russian aces in the P-39.

No P-40 was as fast or climbed as well as any contemporary P-39. The P-40 was a 340mph airplane, barely faster than a Zero. The ultimate P-40, an N-5 model, topped out at 350mph when the P-39N would do right at 400mph. The only advantage the P-40 had was only slightly in maneuverability. Many AAF aces started their score in P-39s.

While neither the P-40 nor P-39 were developed to their potential with a two stage engine, the P-39 outperformed the P-40 in virtually every respect. This is obvious since the P-40 weighed 8400# and the P-39 weighed 7650#. 750# makes a big difference in performance when both planes had the same engine.
 
P-40 wasn't quite as bad as you make out. The P-40N-5 at 8300lb had 157 gallons of internal fuel and the test that showed 350mph top speed was done with both the belly tank rack/braces and a rack/braces for a 500lb bomb under each wing. The racks/braces were empty but were present. also the 350mph speed was done at military power, the test of the N-5 did not include the use of WEP.
By this time most P-40s were being used as tactical bombers, range tests were done with various combinations of drop tanks and bombs, like a 75 gallon tank under the fuselage and a 500lb under each wing. they even ran a test with a 170 gallon tank under the fuselage and a pair of 500lb bombs. The P-39 may have been a better air to air fighter but the P-40s were being switched to a different role in late 1943 and early 1944
 
Steve Appleton was CEO of Micron in Boise, ID. He had two Hawker Hunters when I lived in Boise (around 2005). One was a single-seat model, but the jewel was a two-seat Hunter trainer with an uprated engine and a complete glass panel. I'm pretty sure it would have gone supersonic, but that was never in the cards as a priority unless he took it out over the ocean and did it. Unfortunately, Steve was killed in a Lancair IV turboprop in 2012.
 
You are again low-balling, and talking about low power settings. Just like with a lot of British aircraft, P-40 performance improved as the boost levels increased. The P-40K was 360 + mph even at the lower engine settings. The stripped down "interceptor" variant of the P-40N made 378 mph, the P-40F made 370 mph. according to one of the fairly strict British tests. In general they weren't as fast as P-39s - I would tend to agree with that - though in the field the P-39 seemed to lag behind theoretical paper performance particularly in the PTO. And P-40s were potentially heavier - they carried a lot more fuel for one thing. But they also had a bigger wing, and seemed to be more controllable at higher speeds. P-39 pilots complained about instability and the tendancy to go into spins, especially the dreaded flat spin. As you are no doubt aware they earned the nickname "iron dog" in the Pacific, largely for that reason.

Bottom line is again, in comparison with the A6M - P-40 units like the 49th FG, 23rd FG etc. more than held their own and shot down large numbers of Japanese aircraft and had dozens of aces. You can't say the same for P-39 equipped units unfortunately.

I think the P-39 did have potential to be a good fighter in certain circumstances. Russian pilots who had trained on notoriously 'twitchy' planes like the I-16 and the MiG-3 were able to handle the Airacobra. But there is no denying the P-40 had a much better record with the Western Allies, and I suspect, overall for the entire war effort, as it did pretty well for the Russians too, as they had a large number of P-40 Aces and numerous double aces or better, multiple HSU etc. Their main issue with it was maintenance related. For some reason P-39 seemed to do a lot better in the Winter conditions.
 
I haven't seen this in writing but it seems to me the P40 became able to do a fair amount of damage when they got the six .50 cal wing guns working and employed the run and gun tactics. They were then much more able to take out a plane or seriously damage vehicles up to light armor in a single pass(enough to take on the Japanese). For strict air to air, dropping to four wing guns helped performance and/or allowed more rounds per gun for longer firing time. The mid engine design of the P39 made it more difficult to upgrade and it was small and short ranged. I'm not sure of the P39 bomb loadings if any. The P40 might have ended up looking like a Typhoon/Tempest by the time a Griffon was added.

I was hoping that thread about P40 losses and kills was going to continue from last winter.
 
Yeah I want to get around to that but I have really not had the time. Too many other irons in the fire. I will one day though. Or somebody else can.
 

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