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the fai record of meteor was possible only why not fai record in war of germans jet planes
As i read the jet planes of WWII flying constantly at high throttle, so don't need many thtottle movemevent as piston planes.
never read of so short life of jumo 004 what's the source?
Do you think maybe they were otherwise occupied?
The real boost to Meteor performance came mainly from redesigning the engine nacelles, thats about the only major change from the F.3 to the F.4 (the model that set the record). The change from short to long nacelles was an easy field conversion if need be, so the low drag 1945 Meteor was every bit as fast as the 1945 262, if not moreso thanks to the more powerful engines
It is tempting to think from looking at the pics below that the F.4 had much bigger engines, in fact they were the same, but the longer nacelles greatly reduced drag and allowed higher speeds. The clipped wing of the F.4 pictured below also reduced drag and increased roll rate, but was not universally used on the day fighter Meteor until the F.8, and never on the NF series. The record setting F.4 stiill had the full span wing
To tell the truth, it has been stated so often and from so many different sources that the actual details escape me.
My understanding was metals used in the manufacture had problems with the heat that the jet engines created. Germany, in the later part of the war, had problems producing the alloys due to mineral shortages.
As for going everywhere at full throttle, I could see your point if:
-you don't have to land
-you don't have to take off
-nothing happens when you are landing, taking off or while you are going anywhere.
Otherwise, you're going to need to monkey around with your throttle from time to time. Keep in mind, about half the losses an air force had during WW2 were operational. I would imagine that number would be a bit higher for the early jets as they were a new technology and the bugs/operational processes were still be worked out.
Wayanos we are talking of record flight your data on max speed of operational plane it's out. the first F 4 not flying after the end of development of 262?
Wayanos we are talking of record flight your data on max speed of operational plane it's out. the first F 4 not flying after the end of development of 262?
Why are you trying to compare a Jet aircraft with a Piston aircraft?
To tell the truth, it has been stated so often and from so many different sources that the actual details escape me.
My understanding was metals used in the manufacture had problems with the heat that the jet engines created. Germany, in the later part of the war, had problems producing the alloys due to mineral shortages.
Nano-accuracy in the late 40s, that sounds interestingOK, well strangely enough my Father - rest his soul - had quite a lot to do with Power Jets which was the company started by Whittle Co. He used to talk about using early computers to control cutting jet engine parts very slowly over weeks to ensure Micro-Nano accuracy
Learn something new everyday. Thanks for the post Cromwell.
The FAI records were still given at sea level during this period which is where the 606mph and 616mph records come from for the Meteor F4. The Me 163 was faster at altitude, but that wouldn't count for the record. It wasn't till the mid 1950s that speeds had increased so much as to necessitate the changeover to maxmimum Mach at altitude.
I've not noticed that sentiment C, presumably you mean outside of the forumThing is this : There seems to an idea that all Allied stuff was stop-gap, not very well made, and only worked in large numbers.
Granted the Sten was not pretty - and the MP40 was nicely machined and fitted.
The Sterling, which was developed from the Sten, in 46/47 was actually a very fine bit of kit (in service 51 or 53 depending on sources)
The FAI records were still given at sea level during this period which is where the 606mph and 616mph records come from for the Meteor F4. The Me 163 was faster at altitude, but that wouldn't count for the record. It wasn't till the mid 1950s that speeds had increased so much as to necessitate the changeover to maxmimum Mach at altitude.