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Like wise the change in work load for the pilot while in combat may be significant.
Not to mention more efficient acceleration, better fuel consumption, better power usage across the range of the flight regime, the advantages certainly outweighed maximum speed. Nonetheless, it was recognised before the war that VP props were more efficient on the fighters, but production and supply was not what it would eventually become. The British industry was working at peacetime levels when the First Spitfires and Hurricanes entered service.
Fitting of CS props was an issue, which one do you fit? Obviously for the British it had to be made in UK, that is why ROTOL was formed. Then there is the question of what is it designed for? Between the declaration of war and the Battle of Britain the Merlin increased its power output by a huge amount. Any CS prop optimised for a Hurricane with 85 Octane fuel would need to be replaced by one optimised for 100 Octane. The LW noticed the improvement of the Spitfire MK II when introduced but at the end of the BoB the high altitude Jabo raids found that the Spitfire MkI was the best to counter them.Spitfires with wooden fixed pitch props were a little faster than the constant speed equipped units. The benefits of the conversion of course enormously outweigh the slight reduction in top speed.
Fitting of CS props was an issue, which one do you fit? Obviously for the British it had to be made in UK, that is why ROTOL was formed.
I am not sure it works that way? Maybe one of our experts can get in on this.Fitting of CS props was an issue, which one do you fit? Obviously for the British it had to be made in UK, that is why ROTOL was formed. Then there is the question of what is it designed for? Between the declaration of war and the Battle of Britain the Merlin increased its power output by a huge amount. Any CS prop optimised for a Hurricane with 85 Octane fuel would need to be replaced by one optimised for 100 Octane. The LW noticed the improvement of the Spitfire MK II when introduced but at the end of the BoB the high altitude Jabo raids found that the Spitfire MkI was the best to counter them.
HEY!!!I just want to know who designed this:
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... thinking it was a good idea. It looks like a hotel having 'roid rage.
You tell 'em Bro'!HEY!!!
DO NOT HARSH ON MY PRECIOUS FRENCH PRE-DREADS!!!
THEM'S FIGHTEN' WORDS SONNY...
Remember, you're talking to a guy that thinks the Brewster Buffalo is stylish, yeah I know, but not even therapy has helped with that.
HiI am not sure it works that way? Maybe one of our experts can get in on this.
A CS prop is set up to run at a certain pitch at a certain air speed/altitude. The Rotol props (at least the early ones) would handle 35 degrees of pitch change?
Actually the prop should be set to run a certain speed at a certain pitch and hopefully it should be correct at hi speed once the prop has changed pitch?
Now at 17,000ft or so there shouldn't have any change in the pitch settings as the Merlin and XII should have been making the same power at the same rpm at that altitude.
Unless they adjusted them for the difference in speed due to antennas and other items that produced drag.
I could be way wrong but think the idea of the CP propeller was to let the the prop advance the pitch as long as the engine was making the set rpm.
If the engine was making more power (higher boost) then the prop would advance the pitch change until the prop couldn't advance the pitch anymore.
Your top speed is the same but with the higher boost you are going to get their quicker.
Now if you are doing a higher speed at lower altitude than you used to do because of the higher boost were does that fall on the propellers pitch range?
does 335mph at 10,000ft call for more pitch change than 320mph at 10,000, I would say yes, but if your prop hasn't maxed out it's pitch range because the prop does have to give you a enough pitch to allow for 350mph (+) at 18,000ft is it going to make any difference? Allow for a little bit if over pitch to the plane can dive as the pilot is throttling back.
Now if you are putting a prop on a Hurricane instead of a Spitfire you may want different blades and/or you may want to adjust the prop pitch back a little bit because the Hurricane is never going to use the max pitch of the Spitfire.
Unless the Hurricane has enough to extra travel so it doesn't really matter.
I could be way off.
Oberleutnant Ulrich Steinhilper of III/JG 52 wrote of the difficulties new pilots found operating the Me 109 E's propeller:I have read (could be wrong) that one thing flight leaders tried to do in the first few flights over the French bases with new pilots to see how they were handling the prop pitch switch.
This was before trying to fly over England.
It the switch was not adjusted properly sometimes the new pilots could not maintain formation. And sometimes even they could maintain formation they were using a wrong throttle and pitch combination that used up fuel faster than it should have.
Granted a British pilot could set the CS control wrong also (and we know that P-38 pilots weren't using the right combinations at times
Spitfire I Aeroplane, AP 1565ACS prop took care of that for the pilot. Somewhat.
Like in the turn the constant speed governor would automatically to reduce the pitch of the propeller to keep the prop pitch at a good match to aircraft speed as the engine was making full power.
This is something often ignored with the 2 speed prop.
In order to get "best" performance the airplane with a two speed (basically one speed/fixed pitch after take-off)
the pilot had to reduce the engine throttle to keep from over speeding the prop. The prop is not operating at anywhere near a good angle if the airspeed in not near full speed and unless the engine is throttle reduced and the engine rpm reduced. Trying to fly a tight turn with the engine running around 20-30% below max power is obviously going to affect the planes turning ability.
Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles on Youtube has a recent video on the P40.
I don't know how to make the movie work here but a link is below.
General things I've read here involve how it's use started before Dec 1941 when the USA was not putting a lot of money into research. The British used it in North Africa in 1941 and they were trying to use it with dogfighting tactics that it was not totally successful at. Then it was Lend Leased to Russia and their airforce had been hit hard by Germany so pilot skill and tactics could have suffered there also.
Greg's video linked above impressed me with how all the added boost and power only increased top speed 20-25mph. That was in part because it still ran out of power before it was able to benefit from reduced drag up high due to the single stage supercharger situation.
I don't recall hearing that either and in a bit of irony, it was the .30 MG that jammed on Lt. Rasmussen's P-36, leaving him with only a .50 MG to engage the Japanese that morning at Pearl Harbor.
The RAF (and RAAF) used the Tomahawk in North Africa before receiving Kittyhawks.