Glider
Captain
I'm not an expert in air racing but I understand that a few Sea Furies were raced and a Sea Fury is basically a naval version of a Tempest II
p51 vs p47
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GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
wuzak
Captain
Sea Fury is slightly smaller in span and wing area.
Personal opinion...dude you spew Personal opinion with out facts...
Mine are easy to validate...even gave you a few to look up.
Aside from Bill Odom the P47 one time in1947 was not used in Reno!
I get the feeling you are an advocate of the p47 over everything else.
The Mustang was a far better performer than the Thunderbolt.
War statistics validate my comments.
swampyankee
Chief Master Sergeant
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- Jun 25, 2013
I realize this is anecdote, but this gentleman believes the P-47 was better than the P-51, and he flew both in combat.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Well, my great Uncle flew a P-38, so that makes me an expert, and therefore the P-38 is FAR superior to a P-51 or P-47.
I'll drop a few obscure references, some skewed facts and you all can go look it up!
I'll drop a few obscure references, some skewed facts and you all can go look it up!
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FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Actually I'm not and I never had a dog in the fight. I've always accepted and supported the P-51 was the better aircraft. This started with your very simplistic and mis-informed statement that the P-47 "could not get off the ground to support missions in Korea." Yes the P-51 was the way better aircraft but the P-47 was not junk and performed its role quite well.
So just for the hell of it, here's the 1946 flight test report for the P-47N since you come up short to support your from the hip responses. This is the only statement made with reaguards to the P-47's performance at high weights;
"1. Due to the large quantity of fuel it can carry, the P-47N is a good long range fighter-bomber. Although the performance is not too good at high gross weights, it improves as the external fuel is used and by the time the target area is reached it compares favorably to earlier P-47N's."
P-47N Performance Test
No where does it make a statement about the P-47 "not being able to get off the ground."
And just for reference, here's performace data for the P-51H performed about the same time
P-51H Performance Test
Bottom line the P-47 "could have" been used during the Korean conflict at a higher operational cost. It would be debatable if it would have out performed the P-51 in the ground attack role, a role it was originally designed for.
So at the end of this, where is your reference for the "3 day engine change"???
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I'm no scientist, but isn't there less drag at higher alt? Less dense air I would surmise to have less friction and more wing area would be good to have at high alts.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
That all depends on the wing's planform and how much lift it will provide in the thinner atmosphere.
Add to that, how well the engine is performing at those altitudes.
You can have the best wing in the world and it won't mean a thing unless the engine is able to move it up there...
wuzak
Captain
Not forgetting the propeller.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Indeed!
soulezoo
Senior Airman
I voted P-47. Not because I believe the -47 a better performer than the pony.
But 'cuz 'Murica... woof.
But 'cuz 'Murica... woof.
michael rauls
Tech Sergeant
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I think your post captures it in a nutshell. Depends on the mission which is better. Long range high altitude escort straight there and back, I'll take a p51. Medium or short range escort mission where your going down on the deck on the way back to pound an airfield heavily defended by anti aircraft and I think youd have to be insane not to pick the p47.
Not going to make a bit of difference!
Says the guy who does not know the difference between one reciprocating engine from another...
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
And says it takes 3 days to change a QEC engineSays the guy who does not know the difference between one reciprocating engine from another...
wuzak
Captain
Would that make it an SEC engine?
