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Just so that you know, I never said "you're an idiot for falling for such obvious fakes", I simply said the photo itself was BS, which it was.
I also went on to show an actual IL-2 photo for comparison with no attached insults or derision. Also this is a forum where many folks will comment on a subject at one point or another, so some comments may be later than others in the discussion.
As for "assumptions", now that you've brought it up...one would "assume" that since you're "knowledgable about the principles of flight", you shouldn't have fallen for that game screen, right?
Anyway...that's all I have to say about this, as the Mods have asked that this be dropped, and so it shall.
What I noticed was the item sticking up on the trailing edge of the right wing (Like a spoiler.) and the rudder is neutral. No Yaw? (Not to mention the general appearance.)I should point out that the damage to that IL-2 is beyond what an aircraft can sustain and remain airworthy.
What you're seeing there is a screenshot from the sim IL-2: Sturmovik that's been crudely doctored.
As i said before im not too hot on the IL-2, but yes i see you're point. If that's part of the aileron or trim, being stuck in the raised position like that would cause the aircraft to bank/roll hard over unless corrections were made or even possible. You are surmising (quite rightly) that because the aircraft is in level flight it's an obvious fake. Aside from the other red flags. If the pic were real, the pic could have been taken at such a time that it just happened to capture the aircraft in level flight if only for a second. Which is why i like to stay objective, and not jump to the first conclusion. But that's just an example, the photo is an obvious fake. My comments were nothing personal, i don't make judgements about people i dont know. And maybe i am a little bit too prickly to criticism. Im an old fashioned hands on grease monkey, and when it comes to aircraft even more so. Online internet technology is most definitely not my forte. Hence my lack of knowledge of what is possible with tools like photoshop.What I noticed was the item sticking up on the trailing edge of the right wing (Like a spoiler.) and the rudder is neutral. No Yaw? (Not to mention the general appearance.)
Not trying to be argumentative, but many luftwaffe pilots (especially new pilots) often emptied their whole ammunition drums on IL2's and still were not able to bring them down. IL2's were heavily metal plated, especially around the cockpit and engine. There was a method German pilots had to use to make sure of a kill. I have some interview footage of Gunther Rall explaining this issue somewhere.... I think a large number of IL2 losses came from ground fire, pilot error and mechanical problems. But not having checked the numbers im just giving my opinion not stating a fact.
Painting representing German paratroopers ''Fallschirmjäger'' enter in Holland during the West Front offensive by the German Army in May 1940. During the first 9 months of the war, Hitler decided not to attack on the Western Front in order to mobilize his troops for the conquest of Poland and the Baltic States. But, once his conquest of the East ended, the attack of France began, Hitler directed his forces through the forest of the Ardennes deemed impassable by the Allies in order to circumvent the line Maginot and encircling the advanced French army in Belgium. The conquest of Holland was made by the German paratroopers, the "Fallschirmjäger", proof of the modernity of the German army. Picture by Fortunio Matania. -
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