Spitfire Mk.XIV vs P-51D Mustang

Milosh · May 30, 2018

It is there for me CORSNING.

CORSNING · May 30, 2018

May God bless you Milosh and all the rest of you guys as well.
I have notice that when I click on AVIATION that the right 1/3 of
the page seems to bring up some of my profile. I have not figured
out how to get my profile off the page.

grampi · May 30, 2018

Some of you act like the Mustang would've had no chance against the Spit, which is ridiculous. Yes, the Spit was a better dog fighter, but it wasn't like it had as much of an edge over the Mustang as the Me-262 did...

CORSNING · May 30, 2018

Dammit,
I was just doing great sitting outside with my wife under the awning out back.
I had spent the morning studying TAIC 152A dated May 1945. I put together
all the information that would give the Ki 43-II's performance and characteristics.
I was actually feeling that I had managed an awesome day off from work.
And then grampi comes along with the truth.
OK, I get the message. Yes, I have a lot of performance information for both the
Spitfire and the Mustang. I believe it is time that I put together a side by side
chronology of the two. I will start putting that together tomorrow. Right now I
have just one problem, I haven't been able to figure out how to post a new
thread on this site since it was updated.
True Story, Jeff

fastmongrel · May 30, 2018

CORSNING said:
I haven't been able to figure out how to post a new
thread on this site since it was updated.

Try logging out then clear the cache on your computer, then log back in you will have to enter your password. Also the server for this forum doesnt like Hotmail addresses I had to create a Gmail acount to get back in.

CORSNING · May 31, 2018

Thank you for the information.

CORSNING · May 31, 2018

fastmongrel said:
Try logging out then clear the cache on your computer, then log back in you will have to enter your password. Also the server for this forum doesnt like Hotmail addresses I had to create a Gmail acount to get back in.

Excuse my ignorance, what is a cache? I can post on any thread, I just can't open a new thread...???

wuzak · May 31, 2018

In computing, a cache /kæʃ/ KASH, is a hardware or software component that stores data so future requests for that data can be served faster; the data stored in a cache might be the result of an earlier computation, or the duplicate of data stored elsewhere.

Cache (computing) - Wikipedia

fastmongrel · Jun 1, 2018

CORSNING said:
Excuse my ignorance, what is a cache? I can post on any thread, I just can't open a new thread...???

The Cache well its a thingymajig that stores your whatsists ready to light up when you build up steam pressure in your computers boiler and log onto a website. There is a slight possibility I dont actually know what the Cache does I just know its the first thing to clear when your having website problems.
This is for Chrome every operating system is different

On your computer, open Chrome.
At the top right, click More .
Click More tools Clear browsing data.
At the top, choose a time range. To delete everything, select All time.
Next to "Cookies and other site data" and "Cached images and files," check the boxes.
Click Clear data.
restart the computer and try to post new thread.

CORSNING · Jun 2, 2018

I never cared for chrome. It messed up the payroll for our department at work.
But then, I don't do payroll anymore.

pbehn · Jun 2, 2018

Did the P-51 have a faster cache than the spitfire?

KiwiBiggles · Jun 2, 2018

pbehn said:
Did the P-51 have a faster cache than the spitfire?

No, I would say that they had the same CPU, the P-51 had a bigger hard disk but the Spitfire had a more responsive graphics engine.

pbehn · Jun 2, 2018

KiwiBiggles said:
No, I would say that they had the same CPU, the P-51 had a bigger hard disk but the Spitfire had a more responsive graphics engine.

I believe the performance of the graphics engine was critical in 1939/40

KiwiBiggles · Jun 3, 2018

pbehn said:
I believe the performance of the graphics engine was critical in 1939/40

And in the end you can always slap on a bigger hard disk if you really need one.

cherry blossom · Jun 3, 2018

It's more like accessible memory than a hard disk. The P-47 operating system could address more and more memory until by the P-47N it could reach places even the P-51 couldn't. The Spitfire operating system was more limited. Long long ago, I worked with a computer called a PDP-8 which could only address 4K because an instruction used 12 bits and the first three said what king of instruction such as 5 for jump and the last nine said where to jump. A variety called the PDP-8E sort of doubled that by having a mode instruction, one of the instructions starting with 7, that said now use the other 4K. Similarly, the Spitfire could only access significantly more memory with a mode switch from combat to ferry.

Edit: PDP-8 - Wikipedia has a better description of how addressing worked.

GregP · Jun 6, 2018

If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port,
and the bus is interrupted as a very last resort,
and the address of the memory makes your wing cannons abort,
then the trigger finger pocket has an error to report.

If your Merlin finds a petrol item followed by a dash,
and the double-clicking fuel pump puts your petrol in the trash,
and your ammo is corrupted 'cause the belt feed doesn't hash,
then your situation's hopeless and your fighter's gonna crash!

If the label on the cable on the button on your stick,
says the network's not connected to the trigger that your pick,
but your packets want to tunnel on another protocol,
that's repeatedly rejected by the MG firing pin pall,

If your screen is all distorted by the side effects of Kraut,
so your targets in the bullseye are as wavy as a souse,
then you may as well bail out and go out with a bang,
'cause as sure as I'm a poet, that sucker's gonna prang!

When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk,
and the ACM instructions cause unnecessary risk,
then you have to flash your pecker and you'll want to RAM your ROM.
Quickly shut down the engine and be sure to drop your bomb ...

Sorry ... maybe ...

Clayton Magnet · Jul 11, 2018

wuzak said:
I would think that in that situation there would be two types of XIV - 4 cannon models for bomber destroying duties and 2 canon/4 lmg or 2 hmg versions for duesl with the escorts.

Was there an instance where the Hispano was used against bombers on any sort of large scale? besides the jam-o-matic experiments in 1940. The Mg151 proved to be quite effective, so I wonder how the Mk.II or V Hispano would have fared

Greyman · Jul 11, 2018

The Siege of Malta and Operation Steinbock come to mind.

Shortround6 · Jul 11, 2018

Clayton Magnet said:
Was there an instance where the Hispano was used against bombers on any sort of large scale? besides the jam-o-matic experiments in 1940. The Mg151 proved to be quite effective, so I wonder how the Mk.II or V Hispano would have fared

Granted they were grouped in the fuselage but Beaufighters and Mosquitos used Four 20mms MK IIs with a fair degree of success.

IdahoRenegade · Jul 20, 2018

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