Venomstick121
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- Dec 21, 2023
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To put as much distance as possible between aircraft & explosion as possible, while getting the aircraft fully tail on to the shock wave. The maths explained here.Was there any reason they didnt turn gently before dropping or turn after the shock wave passed?
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Alright! Now we're talking!
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I'll see your Lerwick ...and raise you a .....Blackburn Botha!Alright! Now we're talking!
SARO Lerwick.
Alright! Now we're talking!
SARO Lerwick.
What did the shock wave hit? The ground or the Enola Gay?Hiroshima bomb dropped airspeed 328 mph from 31,000 feet, the B-29 jumped after losing 4 tons, bomb detonated at 1,900 feet, 5.5 miles vertical drop, after 43 seconds, enabling Enola Gay to move about 4 miles. Tibbets stated they were 11.5 miles slant range when the shock wave hit.
Both.What did the shock wave hit? The ground or the Enola Gay?
Both, first the ground then everything else in its path, in principle it is an expanding sphere of pressure.What did the shock wave hit? The ground or the Enola Gay?
We've gone over this in the past. The man tasked with finding an A-bomb capable aircraft, Ramsey, consulted with the Lancaster's designer, Roy Chadwick and gave him the specs for the two A-bomb casing dimensions and was assured by Chadwick that both would fit into a Lancaster bomb-bay. see past post:Dammit, now you've got me thinking. The US did not have another type that could carry the atom bombs in 1944/1945, except the B-29. There wasn't another type. The Lancaster was not going to be used by the US armed forces to carry out such an operation. No way in any form of reality. Besides, the atom bombs couldn't have fitted in the Lanc's bomb bay. Yes, the Lanc could carry a big load, but the bomb's shape, specifically Fat Man would have meant it wouldn't fit. weight was probably not the issue as you have pointed out, since the Lanc could carry a significant load, but not without considerable modification and at the expense of range. The Marianas are 1,500 miles from Japan and the B-29 was pressurised for operations at a greater height for better efficiency. I doubt you could get the Lancaster to do it, frankly, although someone with figures to hand might be able to confirm it.
Yeah, that much is true, but the dropping of the bombs brought the war to an end. If that isn't a sea change, or turning of the tide, I don't know what is. The war ended as a result of the dropping of those bombs. That's pretty tide turning. Had they not been dropped, and let me reiterate, there was no other aircraft that the USAAF had that could have, the war would have gone on for longer, that is without dispute.
Both, first the ground then everything else in its path, in principle it is an expanding sphere of pressure.
Bockscar dropped at 28900ft* and used the 50% greater yield Fatman bomb so the idea that the shockwave was an issue is wrong.Hiroshima bomb dropped airspeed 328 mph from 31,000 feet, the B-29 jumped after losing 4 tons, bomb detonated at 1,900 feet, 5.5 miles vertical drop, after 43 seconds, enabling Enola Gay to move about 4 miles. Tibbets stated they were 11.5 miles slant range when the shock wave hit.
Lincoln production, mark I, 1 in December 1944, 2 in February, 18 in March 1945 and so on, mark II 2 in March, 1 in April, 6 in May 1945 and so on. 24 Lincoln built by end March, 37 by end April, 56 by end May, 75 by end June, 106 by end July, 149 by end August.
According to AIR 8/1363 on 29 November 1945, there were 3 Lincolns in both 44 and 57 squadrons and that was still the case on 14 February 1946, the rest of Bomber Command's heavy bombers were Lancasters.
Hiroshima bomb dropped airspeed 328 mph from 31,000 feet, the B-29 jumped after losing 4 tons, bomb detonated at 1,900 feet, 5.5 miles vertical drop, after 43 seconds, enabling Enola Gay to move about 4 miles. Tibbets stated they were 11.5 miles slant range when the shock wave hit.
Lincoln production, mark I, 1 in December 1944, 2 in February, 18 in March 1945 and so on, mark II 2 in March, 1 in April, 6 in May 1945 and so on. 24 Lincoln built by end March, 37 by end April, 56 by end May, 75 by end June, 106 by end July, 149 by end August.
According to AIR 8/1363 on 29 November 1945, there were 3 Lincolns in both 44 and 57 squadrons and that was still the case on 14 February 1946, the rest of Bomber Command's heavy bombers were Lancasters.
It was an issue when no one had dropped one, whatever a physicist calculates these things have to be put into practice to be sure. If a Mosquito could be damaged by a cookie dropped too low, which I have read happened, then a nuclear bomb needed respect.Bockscar dropped at ~28500ft and used the 50% greater yield Fatman bomb so the idea that the shockwave was an issue is wrong.
It was an issue when no one had dropped one, whatever a physicist calculates these things have to be put into practice to be sure. If a Mosquito could be damaged by a cookie dropped too low, which I have read happened, then a nuclear bomb needed respect.
The above was very conservative and certainly an overestimate of blast pressure.Studies made at Los Alamos had determined that with a bomb of twenty thousand tons of TNT equivalent, a B-29 plane ten miles away from the burst would be safe from destruction by a factor of two. Under these conditions, the aircraft, which had been designed to withstand a force of four times gravity, would be subjected to a force equivalent to no more than two times gravity. It was calculated that by making a sharp diving turn, the sharpest possible consistent with safety, the B-29 could reach a point at least ten miles from the burst by the time the bomb exploded.
We've gone over this in the past. The man tasked with finding an A-bomb capable aircraft, Ramsey, consulted with the Lancaster's designer, Roy Chadwick and gave him the specs for the two A-bomb casing dimensions and was assured by Chadwick that both would fit into a Lancaster bomb-bay. see past post
The B-32 had a number of issues and the 2nd B-32 didn't fly until 2 July 1943 vs 3 Dec 1942 for the B-29. It wasn't till Dec 1944 that the first 5 B-32s were delivered for USAAF testing.Wouldn't the B-32 have been another possibility if circumstances required it?