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The Mukden Incident in 1931 saw the invasion of Manchuria, which was a Chinese territory.It's always been my understanding that the Japanese first invaded China in 1929, but then, their feud goes back farther than that.
...however...
My quote of WWII starting in 1939 is where the publication starts...with the invasion of Poland.
Agreed with 1937. The Eurocentric POV focuses on the German invasion of Poland but the large scale conflict starts in 1937 as others have stated. The emphasis on 1939 impacts how we statistically understand the war such as the underreporting of Chinese casualties from 1937-1939 which are often uncounted. There is a tendency to also overlook precursor conflicts in several theaters from 1927-1937 as GrauGeist has pointed out, such as Italy's invasion of Ethiopia.The Mukden Incident in 1931 saw the invasion of Manchuria, which was a Chinese territory.
Over the next six years, there were skirmishes between China and Japan, but the shooting war started in July 1937 with Japan's full-scale invasion of Chinese proper.
...thread drifters....every....time....
So does this mean I've been officially Thumped ?Once you release a thread into the wild ...
So does this mean I've been officially Thumped ?
Yeah, but people can tend to get carried away, too.Man, I used to get PO'ed when I'd put up what I thought was a Serious Thread® and then some clowns would crawl out of their car to take over. But I took to liking thread-drift. It feels a lot more like a conversation over a pint at the bar, which suffers much the same drift.
Yeah, but people can tend to get carried away, too.
Someone posts a question, looking for specific information and all people wanna do is drift the thread.
That can be rather un-nerving...sometimes, that's the point of thread drift.
I believe in respecting the thread and getting the work done first, then if you wanna go drift off into la-la land, go ahead.
and five years on in the debate.To be fair, we are seventy-odd pages into the thread.
Sorry, I was speaking generally...To be fair, we are seventy-odd pages into the thread.
Sorry, I was speaking generally......THUMPED AGAIN!!!!
Some of the best discussions start as thread drifts.Man, I used to get PO'ed when I'd put up what I thought was a Serious Thread® and then some clowns would crawl out of their car to take over. But I took to liking thread-drift. It feels a lot more like a conversation over a pint at the bar, which suffers much the same drift.
The Hurricane was the leading fighter, fighterbomber of the allies (including the Soviet Union) for the first three years of the war. It may well be the top scoring allied fighter plane of the entire war.Probably the Hurricane. While Spitfire was a better fighter, without Hurricane the RAF will have gotten destroyed in 1940 and never been able to get the Spitfire deployed effectively for lack of pilots. And that will have affected not just military but geopolitical situation as well.
From the lists made by comparing verified claims and known opposition loss reports the Hurricane is fourth on the allied listThe Hurricane was the leading fighter, fighterbomber of the allies (including the Soviet Union) for the first three years of the war. It may well be the top scoring allied fighter plane of the entire war.