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Very true in your statements - "Pops" felt if used correctly the 106 could take on all comers in its class and that would of been a matter of training, but by the time he got to play with them the aircraft was in its twilight and it's only repreve was it's role on the B-1 program. In the 106's day it was looked upon as one of those weapons systems that remained stateside unless something really bad was supposed to happen. It carried Radar and other equipment that was designed for NORAD and NORAD only....Glider said:FJ I remember the previous posting. Your Father is a very experienced and exceptional pilot with a number of records to his name. However the question is how would a normal squadron pilot in a F106 match against a normal squadron pilot in another fighter. My suspision is that the 106 would be at a disadvantage in the majority of cases. Its a big heavy fighter carrying a lot of fuel and a lot of missiles on a very large delta wing which has know disadvantages in a dog fighting situation.
I could be wrong here and forgive me if I am, but I am not aware of F106's being deployed in any numbers where they were likely to tangle with enemy fighters. I don't recall them being deployed to Europe on a permanent basis or to Indo China during the conflicts in that area. A long ranged fighter capable on taking on all comers would I guess have been very useful in escorting the long range B52 bomber missions that were flown.
The F-14 had the dogfighting capability built into it. As it was becoming operational the F-106 was in it's final phases. I put the F-14 marginally into the "next generation."Glider said:The F14 had it all, range, superb long range radars and misiles plus it could take on anyone in a dogfight. For that reason the F14 would have my vote.
Thats why they invented something called mid-air refueling...Its endurance limited its role for those missions where you had hundreds of miles to fly to to get on station then loiter looking for your target.
syscom3 said:F106's were deployed for a short time to Vietnam.
I also think they had temp assignments in Germany from time to time.
I have pic somewhere of 60 106's on the ramp in goose back around 83 at one point we had over 80 fighters airborne at once it was pure pandimoniumFLYBOYJ said:The -106 never went to Vietnam. They did spend some time in Canada, South Korea and Germany, but those tours were more the exception than the rule...
F-102s were sent to Vietnam...
Agree - Plan D and I discussed the same scenario with the Lightning and the F-15 - the F-15 taking out the fighters, the Lightning taking out the bombers...Glider said:The pairing of the F106 and Lightning would have been a heck of a marraige. The F106 for the long range interception and the lightning for those that leaked through the first line of defence.
As for the F14 its clearly in the next F16/F15/F14 generation
Twitch said:Yeah, I can't think of any other plane on the list besides the F-14 that could launch and kill over the horizon and hold its own close in as well.
when you scramble a fighter there is no loiter time figured into the equation the further out you intercept the better and then you RTB and turn the thing aroundsyscom3 said:The F106 has a longer range on internal fuel, thus can be on station and waiting for the bombers to appear. The F14's endurance is not enough to it allow to do any menaingfull long range loitering.
For contiental defense, Id take the F106
you are intercepting bombers and it is not a turn and burn dogfight102first_hussars said:Yeah but the further out, the less time is given for you to stay in a fight before you go to refuel, like if you were in an F5, and you had to intercept a flight of bombers 50 or 100 miles out, you wouldnt be fighting very long.
Very very true....The F14 is for fleet defense, the F106 is for contiental defense.