Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
DerAdler,
So your position is from the point of view of the aircraft's original intended role?
Elvis
So your position is from the point of view of the aircraft's original intended role?
Elvis
The Greatest Fighter Jet of All Time.
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Yes, a fighter is a fighter, a ground attack is a groung attack.
An AH-64D Longbow Apache has air to air capability, are you going to call it a fighter?
SoD Stitch
Banned
Actually, IIRC, most of the Aggressor pilots preferred the A-4 "Scooter", due to it's higher role rate and smaller silhouette (though I believe it had a lower thrust-to-weight ratio than the F-5). However, lately, both the Navy and AF have been using F-14D's, F-15's, and F-16's in the Aggressor role; you don't see too many F-5's anymore.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
There's still a few at Fallon. One was brought into Reno as a static during the races.
ratdog
Airman
the f-5 is only used in the trainer role now in the US and has equipped the US NAVY, the Brazilian Air Force, the Phillipine Air Force, and the South Korean Air Force
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
You left out Botswana and Iran...the f-5 is only used in the trainer role now in the US and has equipped the US NAVY, the Brazilian Air Force, the Phillipine Air Force, and the South Korean Air Force
ratdog
Airman
didnt want to name all 27 countries
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
Would that be the new "F-18 like" Iranian Fighter?FLYBOYJ said:
So apparently, it was used as an aggressor, but not so much anymore.
Oh well, nothing in this world is constant except change.
I still like it. To me, it looks like a slick little sports car with wings and a couple of jet engines.
Elvis
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Would that be the new "F-18 like" Iranian Fighter?
So apparently, it was used as an aggressor, but not so much anymore.
Oh well, nothing in this world is constant except change.
I still like it. To me, it looks like a slick little sports car with wings and a couple of jet engines.
Elvis
I worked on F-5s and they are easy to work on and fly - perfect fighter for the 3rd world.
Matt308
Glock Perfection
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
I understand that was the point.
Created solely to sell to allied nations who didn't have "competitive" aircraft in their inventory.
Didn't we sell a boat load of those to the S.Vietnamese back in the late 60's and/or early 70's?
I think that's where the whole "Skoshi Tiger" thing came from.
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Matt,
Cool pic. Are those machine guns firing?
Elvis
Matt308
Glock Perfection
Actually? If you ask me its fake. I would say its propane, but the smoke is too dark. Who knows. Cool shot nontheless.
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
SoD Stitch
Banned
We did; and the majority of them ended up in North Vietnamese hands in '75 after we pulled out and Saigon/Ho Chi Minh City got overrun. IIRC, a few enterprising South Vietnamese pilots managed to make it out of the country with their F-5's, some of them landing on US carriers offshore of Saigon. Most of the a/c that made it to offshore US carriers ended up getting pushed over the sides of the carriers to make more room for other a/c.
Matt308
Glock Perfection
F-5s landing on a carrier? Is there any video of that?? I personally find that a little hard to believe. Certainly can be done with the barrier erected, but I'm dubious that the airboss would allow it since the landing speed of the F-5 and resultant fouling of the deck would destroy the carrier's bring back efficiency.
I would love to read about that if you have any information.
I would love to read about that if you have any information.
pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
I can see it being done the F5's have an arrester hook , but being an approach end engagement might cause a little havoc, as i believe the arrestor hook and aircraft was set up for a departure end engagement like most AF aircraft, naval aircraft use the approach end
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
I doubt this ever occurred. The F-5 was a robust aircraft and could have gotten away with one carrier landing in a pinch BUT no SVNAF pilots were ever trained to do carrier landings. Ya just don't go out untrained in an aircraft with a 130 mph landing speed and land it on an aircraft carrier - sorry, I don't buy this.
A few F-5s were flown to Thailand or wound up with the North Vietnamese.
Hueys? Another story - dozens of helicopters were flown out of South Vietnam to US ships.
A few F-5s were flown to Thailand or wound up with the North Vietnamese.
Hueys? Another story - dozens of helicopters were flown out of South Vietnam to US ships.
pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
Thats where the havoc part in my statement comes in I think it would bend the aircraft with an approach end engagement
Matt308
Glock Perfection
Okay guys let's quite pussyfootin' around. Someone say, BS already. 
