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Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
You're certainly dedicated to your mission.
Truth is, the B-29 could have carried anything the Lancaster/Lincoln could, and then some...
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You're certainly dedicated to your mission.And not a B-29. I am quite happy to admit that a Valiant was a superior A-bomb delivery platform than a Lancaster or Lincoln. However, the fact is that the B-29 couldn't carry the UK's first nukes, while the Lincoln and Lancaster could.
You're certainly dedicated to your mission.
Truth is, the B-29 could have carried anything the Lancaster/Lincoln could, and then some...View attachment 601992
Unless there's info to the contrary, by the look of the engine nacelles it's a B-29.Isn't that a B-50?
Given some B-29's? Find a mission for them?ELINT doesn't equal a nuclear bomber. The RAF was given some B-29s and then had to find a mission for them. Assuming the UK had a sizeable number of nuclear weapons they could have delivered by Lincolns at night.
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And not a B-29. I am quite happy to admit that a Valiant was a superior A-bomb delivery platform than a Lancaster or Lincoln. However, the fact is that the B-29 couldn't carry the UK's first nukes, while the Lincoln and Lancaster could.
That is a B-29 - and in other news, the B-29 could also (and did) carry the T-12 Cloudmaker bomb, which weighed 43,600 pounds.Isn't that a B-50?
And if they couldn't it would be the biggest screw up in history, who designs a bomb that they cant drop? The B-29 and the bombs it carried were both modified so the things worked.BUT THEY DIDN'T!
And if they couldn't it would be the biggest screw up in history, who designs a bomb that they cant drop? The B-29 and the bombs it carried were both modified so the things worked.
The Blue Danube was 24 feet long, 5 feet in diameter and weighed 10,000 pounds.We're talking about the UK's first nukes. They were not designed to be carried in a B-29.
The Blue Danube was 24 feet long, 5 feet in diameter and weighed 10,000 pounds.
Fat Man was almost 11 feet long, 5 1/2 feet in diameter and weighed 10,300 pounds.
In contrast, the Grand Slam (which the B-29 could carry one in a modified bay OR two externally) was 26 1/2 feet long, almost 4 feet in diameter and weighed 22,000 pounds.
So perhaps you'd like to rethink that?
Conversely, the Little boy/Fat Man was not designed for a Lancaster - so in one short paragraph, you destroyed your entire argument...The Grandslam was not designed for a B-29 either. The fact that the B-29 could be modded to carry it, for certain special ops is quite irrelevant.
Well, if the thread starter thinks this way, I can only agree. Maybe we should close this? Seems to me there is no merit in continuing.Gawd, this thread has been reduced to nit-picking between B-29 and Lancaster derivatives, simply to prove a point rather than to provide information, which is why it was started in the first place...
Conversely, the Little boy/Fat Man was not designed for a Lancaster - so in one short paragraph, you destroyed your entire argument...
Ramsey wasn't an aircraft designer.According the bomb's designer, Ramsey, the Lancaster could carry either bomb with the least mods.
Ramsey wasn't an aircraft designer.
As we've discussed Ramsey was tasked with finding a delivery aircraft for the bombs he was designing.
That wasn't my point, the UK had to have a means of delivery otherwise the whole thing is a waste of time. The grand slam could be carried by a modified Lancaster and reduced performance in range was accepted. If it couldn't be carried by a modified Lancaster it wouldn't have left the drawing board, Barnes Wallace had many ideas for bombs and other weapons, including ideas which needed planes to carry them that didn't yet exist.We're talking about the UK's first nukes. They were not designed to be carried in a B-29.