GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
You're certainly dedicated to your mission.
Truth is, the B-29 could have carried anything the Lancaster/Lincoln could, and then some...
The Lancaster as a potential nuclear bomber in 1945
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Truth is, the B-29 could have carried anything the Lancaster/Lincoln could, and then some...
ThomasP
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Isn't that a B-50? 
I'm beginning to think this nothing more than a troll thread, and we should stop feeding it.
Peter Gunn
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Unless there's info to the contrary, by the look of the engine nacelles it's a B-29.Isn't that a B-50?
Peter Gunn
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Given some B-29's? Find a mission for them?
It's Wiki I know but (emphais mine):
During the early 1950s, the Royal Air Force urgently needed interim aircraft for its bomber units, as a "stop gap" replacement for the Avro Lincoln,until British-designed and manufactured jets like the English Electric Canberra and, in the longer term, the so-called "V bombers", became operational. From the RAF's point of view the B-29, was a heavy bomber comparable to the Lincoln, albeit with distinct performance and capacity advantages and, as a type that had already been proven operationally, did not detract from the development of the British jets.
A formal agreement with the USA was signed on January 27, 1950 and the USAF loaned the RAF seventy B-29 bombers which received the serials WF434-WF448, WF490-WF-514 and WF545-WF574. Later another 18 were delivered under serials WW342-WW356 and WZ966-WZ968.[9] The aircraft received the service name Boeing Washington B.1 (B.1 from "Bomber Mark 1") with RAF Bomber Command from 1950 as a longer-range nuclear-capable bomber, pending the introduction of the English Electric Canberra in quantity.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
BUT THEY DIDN'T!
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
That is a B-29 - and in other news, the B-29 could also (and did) carry the T-12 Cloudmaker bomb, which weighed 43,600 pounds.Isn't that a B-50?
And if they couldn't it would be the biggest screw up in history, who designs a bomb that they cant drop? The B-29 and the bombs it carried were both modified so the things worked.
We're talking about the UK's first nukes. They were not designed to be carried in a B-29.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The Blue Danube was 24 feet long, 5 feet in diameter and weighed 10,000 pounds.
Fat Man was almost 11 feet long, 5 1/2 feet in diameter and weighed 10,300 pounds.
In contrast, the Grand Slam (which the B-29 could carry one in a modified bay OR two externally) was 26 1/2 feet long, almost 4 feet in diameter and weighed 22,000 pounds.
So perhaps you'd like to rethink that?
The Grandslam was not designed for a B-29 either. The fact that the B-29 could be modded to carry it, for certain special ops is quite irrelevant.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Conversely, the Little boy/Fat Man was not designed for a Lancaster - so in one short paragraph, you destroyed your entire argument...
Well, if the thread starter thinks this way, I can only agree. Maybe we should close this? Seems to me there is no merit in continuing.Gawd, this thread has been reduced to nit-picking between B-29 and Lancaster derivatives, simply to prove a point rather than to provide information, which is why it was started in the first place...
According the bomb's designer, Ramsey, the Lancaster could carry either bomb with the least mods.
Here we go again...
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Ramsey wasn't an aircraft designer.
As we've discussed Ramsey was tasked with finding a delivery aircraft for the bombs he was designing.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Yea he did - and those who knew better chose the better delivery aircraft. End of story!
That wasn't my point, the UK had to have a means of delivery otherwise the whole thing is a waste of time. The grand slam could be carried by a modified Lancaster and reduced performance in range was accepted. If it couldn't be carried by a modified Lancaster it wouldn't have left the drawing board, Barnes Wallace had many ideas for bombs and other weapons, including ideas which needed planes to carry them that didn't yet exist.
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