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Hummel carried 15-18 rounds of main gun ammo.The Hummel was my favorite piece in the board game "Panzer Blitz ".
don't get too carry away with the M7, nice bit of kit. But.......
A four hour barrage firing at even one shot per minute is 240 rounds per barrel.
M7 carried 73 rounds of ammunition.
Artillery needs a crap load of logistic support.
fire rates for the US 105mm
1st 1/2 minute..................8rpm
first 4 min...........................4rpm
first 10 mi...........................3rpm
sustained..........................100 rounds/hour.
You could fire faster at times, however you are juggling barrel life with rates of fire and with charge loads (range)
US 105 barrel was good for around 10,000 rounds.
In NW Europe in 1944 they were replacing barrels in 5,000 rounds. warn barrels are not accurate and they don't give the expected range.
If worn enough they can give "pre-matures" (round going off in the barrel, ruins everybody's whole day)
What didn't help was that they had shells for the wrong war, No or very little HE. the rounds of choice were Shrapnel. These were filled with small balls that were fired out the front of the shell by a small charge (which didn't even burst the whole shell body), like giant shotgun shells being fired just ahead if the enemies troops. Devastating if the troops were tightly bunched up in the open. Against dispersed troops hiding behind walls and in ditches........not so much. Which lead to more rounds being used.
A whole bunch of companies were given contracts (most of which had never made an artillery shell before) by what even means and materials they had at hand. When this "stuff" got to the front the newspaper headlines changed from not just "shell shortages for our boys" to stories of blown up guns, decimated gun crews, accusations of incompetence, maleficence, bribes and so on. This lasted for weeks (longer news cycle then, and there were hundreds of blown up guns).
By some time in 1915 more reliable shell suppliers had geared up, the incompetent ones gotten rid off (a bit more fire discipline helped) and that crisis faded into the general mess that was WW I tactics and battles.
However it seems that the idea of cheap, easily produced but reliable ammunition had lodged itself into the British high command mindset.
Might have made sense if WW II had stayed just across the channel in France. Once you are shipping tens/hundreds of thousands of rounds around Africa to Egypt and to Asia cheap ammo starts getting rather expensive in a number of ways.
Yes depending on a variety of circumstances. I've seen M107s move shoot and deploy again inside 10 minutes during military exercises.I would note that the M7s and Bishops contribution was that they "could keep up with an advance". But that is a lot slower than what is being portrayed.
This is WW II, no gps
M7 battery could "mount up" and drive off in minutes, not seconds. Depending on how things were going, the battery would go to one pre-selected site or another. Pull off the trail/track and deploy. Align the barrels in the direct of expected fire, space the vehicles out in the expected pattern ( so the impact area would correspond to some extent), Ammo vehicles would pull up to the gun vehicles, phone wires would be laid at times. Gun captains would lay out marker stakes (gun sights were aimed at stakes set at certain distances so when an order for 200 ydrs right came in they could move the sight the precise distance needed to get the result. it could take up to 30 minutes from 1st vehicle stopping to first round range.
However this was several hours quicker than a towed battery. That was when the advancing tanks could get beyond the range of the guns and it took hours to move the guns and set them up again. The M7s could also traverse ground that trucks got stuck in even if all the batteries vehicles couldn't do it and needed to go around. Some fire support was better than none. The Artillery batteries would move leap frog style tying to keep a least few batteries with in range.
The M7s were not firing over open sights in the desert at any range to engage anti tank guns, unless they really goofed. They should be firing indirectly at targets under observation by a forward observer.
this was also a limit for the 8th Army as they had so few long range guns. More long range guns could give cover as the short ranged batteries moved up.
Are those 'Decons'?
Long enough for a game of Panzer Blitz.Hummel carried 15-18 rounds of main gun ammo.
needs a crap load of half tracks/ trucks in support.
That's actually news to me that 2 and 5 SAAF got Kittyhawk III, good for them. These may have been P-40MSomething struck me as odd about the Kittyhawk variants noted above in that OOB. Halley "Squadrons of the Royal Air Force & Commonwealth 1918-1988" has this:-
2SAAF - Kittyhawk I 4/42-6/43 then Kittyhawk III
4SAAF - Kittyhawk I 6/42-7/43
5 SAAF - Tomahawk IIB 2/42-1/43, then Kittyhawk III to 12/43
260 - began to receive Kittyhawk III in Dec 1942
3 RAAF - No Kittyhawk III until 4/43
450 - Kittyhawk III from 9/42 replacing Mk.I
250 - Kittyhawk III from 10/42 replacing Mk.I
112 - Kittyhawk III from 10/42 replacing Mk.I
So at El Alamein only 3 squadrons with Mk.III
According to that reference the only RAF/Commonwealth users of the Kittyhawk II were
250 - 4/42-10/42 alongside Mk.I
260 - 2/42-5/43 alongside Mk.I with Mk.III joining the mix 12/42
3 RAAF - 11/42-3/44 alongside Mk.I 11/42-12/42 and then Mk.III from 4/43
The Hummel was my favorite piece in the board game "Panzer Blitz ".
Please remember that the 88mm AT guns were just that, AT guns.
Most of them were no longer AA guns. You could elevate them and fire them into the sky.
But most had their AA sights removed, and/or the fuse setters removed, and/or the connections for the AA director.
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one guy turned the crank wheel to align the pointers on the left and the other guy turned the crank wheel to align the pointers on the right.
One for elevation and one for traverse. There are a few different styles.
Fuse setter
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Shells go nose down into the box closest to the base, Cranking the handle on the box sets the fuse according the settings passed on from the director.
Cable from the director had 104 contact pins.
Many 88s if the Luftwaffe ever recovered them, and some or all of the AA equipment stripped away and were useless as AA guns unless (if ever) refitted.
There is an argument that Rommel might have done better to leave more 88s around the harbors/supply areas rather than use them as AT guns,
That was my number two choice. To quote Napoleon Bonaparte "All I require is volume of fire" or something.Whenever I saw a Wespe on "Allied Generals", I took it out ASAP if I could. Mobile arty is of the Devil.
Since both the P-40K and the P-40M were known as Kittyhawk IIIs we have to be very careful figuring out who actually got what.That's actually news to me that 2 and 5 SAAF got Kittyhawk III, good for them. These may have been P-40M
Especially in war games/computer games, sometimes unlimited ammo, doesn't need to reload, sets up and breaks down in seconds. Towed stuff is even worse, nobody wants to spend 15-20 turns setting up.Whenever I saw a Wespe on "Allied Generals", I took it out ASAP if I could. Mobile arty is of the Devil.