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Does anyone have Whirlwind losses to compare with the claims? Are those verified victories or just claims?
I've just had an idea. Since we licence build Hispano-Suiza cannon, why don't we licence build the Hispano-Suiza 12Y and use that instead of the Peregrine, that would bring in more cash for Franco's Spain.
God forbid they make them without the license lol. I think the plans were out and about by 1940...
I don't think that 13 aircraft shot down over a two year period by the two Whirlwind squadrons (well, one until October '41) is particularly impressive.
The squadrons did operate in areas where either targets were sparse or they were reacting to the Luftwaffe's defence where their primary aim was to get away.
I didn't say it would, but Hispano Suiza, granted an international company with several branches, was headquartered in Catalonia which was within Francos domain.
Whether or not it is impressive to me depends somewhat on the loss ratio.
No, same dimensions weight as a Peregrine. 12X similar to Kestrel. Every moans about V-1710 engine but it's a 1929 engine.How heavy was the 12Y? I thought it was on par with the Merlin / DB 601 etc.
How heavy was the 12Y? I thought it was on par with the Merlin / DB 601 etc.
Spain was cash strapped, the economy, agriculture was wrecked by the Civil War, that's why he never entered the war on the German side, plus Admiral Canaris's advice.Why would license building Hispano Suiza guns and engines bring in more cash for Franco.
Off 116 Whirlwinds built 28 were lost in action and another 7 went missing in action. That's not a great loss ratio. 35/13 is near enough 2.7:1 against. Of the rest, another 5 crashed in the UK with battle damage, but if we include them the loss ratio becomes even less flattering.
19 were eventually struck off command, 2 became instructional air frames and 2 survived the war.
The really worrying figure is the 53 lost in accidents, that's a whopping 46% of all those produced. A look at pilot losses shows a lot of these were fatal accidents.