DonL
Banned
@Shortround6
I just talking about a normal development evolution.
You have put the P38 from 1943/44 in the discussion.
Bf 109: Bf 109D, Jumo 210G, 2160 kg; Bf 109 E, DB 601 A, 2573 kg; Bf 109 F-4,DB 601 E, 2890 kg; Bf 109 G-6,DB 605 A, 3200 kg; Bf 109 K-4,DB 605 DC, 3500 kg
Bf 110: Bf110B-0, Jumo 210G, 6150kg Bf 110 C-4, 2x DB 601, 6750 kg, Bf 110 G-2, 2x DB 605, 7790kg (destroyer/fighter bomber/escort fighter)
Bf 110 G-4 (Nightfighter 1943/45),2x DB605, 9800kg
Please read my post Nr. 27. A nightfighter version of the FW 187 was ready for development and production at 1942/1943 because the LW wanted badly a better and faster nightfighter than the Me 110. This FW 187 nightfighter version (1942) was in heavy discussion bei the the RLM at the end of 1942.
The Jumo 213 and the heavier weightloading were the points for the JU 88 G.
If you want data, i will post them.
And besides no Bf 109 G or Bf 110G had a metal cut at 1940/41/42.
So about what do we talking? About normal design evolution or negate all as paper launches?
The basic design was produced and had shown her potential in real flights.
To the non-adaptability to the night fighter role I have said all. (The FW 187 could carry a 1000kg bomb)
Do you realy think that a FW 187 with 8200kg take off weight would need a longer take off run then a Bf 110G-4 with 9800kg. I think in germany were also plenty of long runways. And we are talking here about a nightfighter version not a single seater escort version.
Just what airplane are you talking about?
I just talking about a normal development evolution.
You have put the P38 from 1943/44 in the discussion.
Bf 109: Bf 109D, Jumo 210G, 2160 kg; Bf 109 E, DB 601 A, 2573 kg; Bf 109 F-4,DB 601 E, 2890 kg; Bf 109 G-6,DB 605 A, 3200 kg; Bf 109 K-4,DB 605 DC, 3500 kg
Bf 110: Bf110B-0, Jumo 210G, 6150kg Bf 110 C-4, 2x DB 601, 6750 kg, Bf 110 G-2, 2x DB 605, 7790kg (destroyer/fighter bomber/escort fighter)
Bf 110 G-4 (Nightfighter 1943/45),2x DB605, 9800kg
I am also trying to figure out just what FW 187 night fighter you are talking about since none of the planes that were built ever carried radar.
You seem to talking about paper airplanes that never had a metal cut for them.
Please read my post Nr. 27. A nightfighter version of the FW 187 was ready for development and production at 1942/1943 because the LW wanted badly a better and faster nightfighter than the Me 110. This FW 187 nightfighter version (1942) was in heavy discussion bei the the RLM at the end of 1942.
The Jumo 213 and the heavier weightloading were the points for the JU 88 G.
If you want data, i will post them.
And besides no Bf 109 G or Bf 110G had a metal cut at 1940/41/42.
So about what do we talking? About normal design evolution or negate all as paper launches?
The basic design was produced and had shown her potential in real flights.
I don't know if you have read my post Nr.27 but the V4 and V6 were armed at their flights, it was no evaporative cooling system and it was ready for service for pressure water/glycol engines.The FW 187 is a bit more of a problem. It has a bigger wing than the P-38 so it can easily carry the DB engines it was designed for. However the performance numbers for the prototype may very well be for an unarmed version and the low drag surface evaporative cooling system was a no-go for a service aircraft..
It's non-adaptability to the night fighter role makes it's adaptation in place of the ME 110 a problem down the road as does it's perhaps slightly less suitability for the fast bomber role. While it might have the power to lift a pair of 1100lb bombs it's smaller wing might mean a longer take off run. Same could be said of the P-38 but the US and British seemed to have plenty of long runways for other aircraft that the P-38s could use.
To the non-adaptability to the night fighter role I have said all. (The FW 187 could carry a 1000kg bomb)
Do you realy think that a FW 187 with 8200kg take off weight would need a longer take off run then a Bf 110G-4 with 9800kg. I think in germany were also plenty of long runways. And we are talking here about a nightfighter version not a single seater escort version.
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