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MiTasol

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Having lost some 8tb of data, including from the incremental backups I was keeping, I have now decided to try a cloud backup on top of my on site backup hard drives. Where we are at present the fastest internet is 25mb but in reality for much of the day it struggles to get 10% of that. It is fastest between 23:00 and 04:00 when most people are asleep.

Can members who have cloud backup please provide the pros and cons of the service they use.

My preferences are to avoid any service that is:
  • associated with an AI company (because they cannot be trusted - far too much confidential information between users and AI providers ends up in the public arena and/or in court) See my post yesterday in AI Fails.
  • owned by an American company (the Aus government found 4-5 years ago that confidential information that US vendors were storing for the AU government was being stored in the USA, not AU, and was accessible by the vendor and US governments.


Not negotiable is that the service supports Linux.
 
That would be good if I was staying in this house but we are planning on moving soon after xmas and the new house has a server with 60tb of disc space in RAID configuration. I am strongly considering enabling remote access to that to "fix" my backup problem even tho I hate the potential AI hacks that follow with internet access.

The intermittent power supply destroyed 11.8 of the 16tb in the old computer - all of which was backed up in the same computer - because the software I was using for backup copies every change on each master disc to that discs mirror and when the power supply killed a file the same file was delieted from the backup. In multiple cases a complete directory was deleted this way.

For the six months I am leaning towards cloud backup which I still consider unsafe but at $700 for the new 6tb disc and $290 for the new 1tb SSD system disc adding discs gets expensive very fast.
 
That would be good if I was staying in this house but we are planning on moving soon after xmas and the new house has a server with 60tb of disc space in RAID configuration. I am strongly considering enabling remote access to that to "fix" my backup problem even tho I hate the potential AI hacks that follow with internet access.

The intermittent power supply destroyed 11.8 of the 16tb in the old computer - all of which was backed up in the same computer - because the software I was using for backup copies every change on each master disc to that discs mirror and when the power supply killed a file the same file was delieted from the backup. In multiple cases a complete directory was deleted this way.

For the six months I am leaning towards cloud backup which I still consider unsafe but at $700 for the new 6tb disc and $290 for the new 1tb SSD system disc adding discs gets expensive very fast.
Could I ask why a house comes with 60tb of storage?
 
I would use Linux to do a remote backup set, using Rsync to do the heavy lifting over SSH. If you can get that going on the new house server then you can automate it, run it at those wee hours when the net is better.
The tool I used is Dirvish. it is old and relatively easy to employ. You can use key access for he SSH servers and that is pretty secure, or you can set up a VPN.
Dirvish

It creates vaults with daily backup directories. Most of what you see are simlinks, it does not back up the same data over and over again. This keeps the disk space at a reasonable level.
In my case I set the files to age out at 120 days. Thus a file that is deleted on the local server will still be there, you have 4 months to figure out a boo-boo. That setting Is up to you.
You can browse these daily directories easily, it does not make tarballs or other compression schemes.
What it does in a nutshell:
The backup server says " what do you have that is new?"
The main server makes a list. Then it sends only those files.
The backup server makes that day's directory, puts everything in order as it is on the main, and fills up those directories with either those few new files, or simlinks to the files that reside in previous day's directories.
This process is very fast.
I had small (<1tb) file servers in businesses with software Raid 1 arrays. The backup servers were remote, at least in a different building on the campus but often out on the WAN.
Linux would send me an email if an array became degraded. I had personnel at the remote sites I had trained to do disk swaps, so I did not have to do the 300 mile roundtrip and I slept well.
Short story:
I had long ago fired the last client when they emailed me in a panic. Ransomware had infected the network and the clients could re-write the server files with the malware header.
I was in the Baltic Sea on a cruise ship with nothing but my android phone.
Over the course of 36 hours I directed the local efforts in the states to clean up the malware, and I command line restored the files not once but twice using my phone. I don't think my eyes would be up to that again.
 
Thank you. I have use Zorin Linux since this time last year so learning Dervish should not be beyond me.

Before I was using a Windows program called Synchredible. It does the same as your nutshell summary including deleting files that have been deleted from the main disc and that is what cost me many files. The intermittent power failure was dropping the read arm on to the disc on the spinning discs and destroying data that way and also depleted the ssd capacitors until the total disc died and given that each master/slave was identical the slave often died as well. If that was a main disc Sychredible then deleted all the files.
 
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Could I ask why a house comes with 60tb of storage?

I already have the server there and have hardwired the house as needed. We were planning on moving nearly a year ago but my wifes chemo/radiation/immunotherapy have kept us here most of the time. With those costs I cannot afford to move the server to this place and wire it and air-condition the room it would go in. I prefer Cat 6 to wifi.
 
so you see the fundamental difference. My setup was like that to prevent a disgruntled employee from wreaking havoc on the way out. Or a ransomware or in your case a hardware problem.
Nothing gets deleted until it gets to the stale date.
Do be sure to search for Dirvish with an "I".
What part of AW Flaming stralia?
I want to visit the country but it is vast. One of my online buddies in in WA somewhere and I will not likely get out that way.
 
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