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CCM von Hausser said:I'm not sure if it's the right place so mods are free to move this topic
I open this topic to ask help to find some infos or idea about at "what if GER wons Battle of Britain" I mean: Do you think that ENG wants to use "gas" to defend her beachs? What do you think about alternative Great Britain situation? What about Scotland, Galles, England and both North Irland and Irland? Do you think that Waffen-SS could found any volunteers for their Army?
I'm sorry for my english
plan_D said:When the Allies invaded Normandy they had absolute naval and air superiority.
The Luftwaffe still existed but what was left of the bomber force had no chance of striking through the massive fighter screen the RAF and USAAF could send up. There's proof of this in the days during Overlord where Ju-88s were shot down in droves as they attempted to attack the beach head.
The Kriegsmarine was out-numbered and out-gunned. The only real chance they had was using stealthy small E-boats to cause havoc and confusion in the Allied supply line across the Channel.
The Allied invasion fleet had 6,939 vessels : 1,213 combat vessels, 4,126 landing craft, 736 ancillary craft and 864 merchant vessels. The 2nd Tactical Air Force and Ninth U.S Air Force had been hammering tactical targets in France since May in support of the upcoming invasion, airfields, power stations, bridges, rail lines and marshalling yards were all high on the list. The 'Mighty 8th' and RAF Bomber Command had been bombing Germany proper for months with great effectiveness, and the escort fighters had started exacting a heavy toll on the Luftwaffe.
And with all that, the Allied invasion almost failed on more than one occassion. And Field Marshal Sir Alan Brooke, Chief of Imperial General Staff even said on 5 June, 1944, "I am very uneasy about the whole operation. At best it will fall so very far short of the expectations of the bulk of the people, namely those who know nothing of its difficulties. At worst it may well be the most ghastly disaster of the whole war. I wish to God it were safely over."
The Germans had a sixth of the Allied invasion fleet, at best. Not all of which was completely sea-worthy. They didn't have complete air superiority. No heavy bombers had been hammering away at British industry. No tactical bombers had been smashing British lines of communication for months in direct support of the invasion. And the Germans lacked naval superiority. ... even if Germany forced the RAF to move north of London ... they'd lose any invasion attempt in 1940.
uhm... no, I'm thinking if GER was able to land on the ENG Beachsplan_D said:The German invasion fleet would have been sunk in the Channel.
uhm... This is a different approach for me. Luftwaffe was a Tactical Air Force and not a Strategical Air Force: it's cause in GER this force was seen just like a support for the Heer, so I think that not enough efforts was made to build a nice Strategic Bombjohnbr said:What if the Heinkel He 277 with BMW 802 was made in stead of the He177 or the He s30 or Jumo 004h was made from good material.
CCM von Hausser said:Thanks timshatz: those are words I want to read
What do you think about a puppet Governament in Great Bretain under GER rules? What options?
That was pretty damn funny Tim, and a great post as well....it is nothing more than that whims of my one time fertile immagination.
lesofprimus said:That was pretty damn funny Tim, and a great post as well....
I quote 100% !! Great timshatz!!! Just one more effort for you... ...if I canlesofprimus said:That was pretty damn funny Tim, and a great post as well....