cheddar cheese
Major General
I think Heinkel did work with the British before the war.
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I am trying to find where I read it but I can not. I may be wrong. I know the British got German Naval designers during there own version of Operation Paperclip.
mosquitoman
Master Sergeant
Operation Paperclip?
mosquitoman
Master Sergeant
Right, thanks
Info on Paperclip:
Originally called Operation Overcast, Operation Paperclip was the codename for the operation by the US intelligence services and military to extract scientists specialising in rocketry (e.g. V-1, V-2), chemical weapons (e.g. Zyklon-B),chemical reaction technology and medicine from Germany after the collapse of the Nazi government during World War II. These scientists and their families were secretly brought to the United States, without State Department review and approval. None of them qualified for visas because they had all served to further the cause of Hitler's Third Reich in World War II.
Scientists were deployed at White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico, Fort Bliss, Texas and Huntsville, Alabama to work on guided missile and ballistic missile technology, and led to the foundation of NASA and the US ICBM program.
Over 700 members of the Nazi scientific community were brought to the US as a direct result of Operation Paperclip, many of whom were still ardent Nazi supporters.
Although President Harry S. Truman gave explicit orders not to allow any scientists who were thought to have strong Nazi leanings to enter the US under Operation Paperclip, many dossiers were re-written to "clean-up" the histories of many of the scientists involved, to prevent them and their expertise falling into the hands of the Soviet Union.
Much of the information surrounding Operation Paperclip is still classified.
Separate from Paperclip was an even-more-secret effort to capture German nuclear secrets, equipment and personnel. See Operation Alsos. Another American project (TICOM) gathered German experts in cryptography.
The United States Bureau of Mines employed 7 German synthetic fuel scientists in a Fischer-Tropsch chemical plant in Missouri Louisiana in 1946
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_paperclip
Originally called Operation Overcast, Operation Paperclip was the codename for the operation by the US intelligence services and military to extract scientists specialising in rocketry (e.g. V-1, V-2), chemical weapons (e.g. Zyklon-B),chemical reaction technology and medicine from Germany after the collapse of the Nazi government during World War II. These scientists and their families were secretly brought to the United States, without State Department review and approval. None of them qualified for visas because they had all served to further the cause of Hitler's Third Reich in World War II.
Scientists were deployed at White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico, Fort Bliss, Texas and Huntsville, Alabama to work on guided missile and ballistic missile technology, and led to the foundation of NASA and the US ICBM program.
Over 700 members of the Nazi scientific community were brought to the US as a direct result of Operation Paperclip, many of whom were still ardent Nazi supporters.
Although President Harry S. Truman gave explicit orders not to allow any scientists who were thought to have strong Nazi leanings to enter the US under Operation Paperclip, many dossiers were re-written to "clean-up" the histories of many of the scientists involved, to prevent them and their expertise falling into the hands of the Soviet Union.
Much of the information surrounding Operation Paperclip is still classified.
Separate from Paperclip was an even-more-secret effort to capture German nuclear secrets, equipment and personnel. See Operation Alsos. Another American project (TICOM) gathered German experts in cryptography.
The United States Bureau of Mines employed 7 German synthetic fuel scientists in a Fischer-Tropsch chemical plant in Missouri Louisiana in 1946
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_paperclip
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MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
"Paperclip" was a nice way of colecting the german engineers before the Russians did. Also the US would have shared if only a little with the British. 
Better in the US and British hands than in the Russians. Who knows how the cold war may have gone if that had been the case.
MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
true, but the whole rush to "collect" German engineers and resurchers along with prototypes and drawings is wrather interesting
Almost like some great trouphy hunt.
Almost like some great trouphy hunt.
It's called the "Spoils of War".
I think the most impressive is the movement of the Schott glass and Zeiss optic plants from Jena. The factories were gutted of all specalist equipment and all the scientists and their families were taken to Frankfurt, all in under 3 weeks.
All that without official orders, and all organised by Hubert "The Hub" Zemke.
I think the most impressive is the movement of the Schott glass and Zeiss optic plants from Jena. The factories were gutted of all specalist equipment and all the scientists and their families were taken to Frankfurt, all in under 3 weeks.
All that without official orders, and all organised by Hubert "The Hub" Zemke.
plan_D said:
No I think it is more they realized how far behind they were in some areas.
True with that.
Sal Monella
Airman 1st Class
P-47H Thunderbolt
Experimental version that could exceed 500mph.
Experimental version that could exceed 500mph.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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pig ugly though.........
cheddar cheese
Major General
Who cares with kick ass figures like that though...
Sal Monella
Airman 1st Class
I find her attractive. She'd make a great "shark mouth" fighter don't you think?
cheddar cheese
Major General
Actually with the undercarriage retracted it is pretty nice, looks rather like an enlarged P-40.
IMHO, it's a sexy aircraft.
I understand that while very fast, it's engine was problematic and at high altitudes, it's high speed diminished to well below the "D" model.
It had a liquid cooled engine built by Chrysler. I once heard it referred to as a "Hemi-bolt."
I understand that while very fast, it's engine was problematic and at high altitudes, it's high speed diminished to well below the "D" model.
It had a liquid cooled engine built by Chrysler. I once heard it referred to as a "Hemi-bolt."
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