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It would have affected all those actions to the west of Moscow, most importantly at the time being Leningrad.
All reserves that moved to the front against the Wehrmacht went through Moscow.
This would cut off the Caucasus, with Stalingrad included leaving a small avenue of escape through Stalingrad (although risky because of the Luftwaffe) and just south of the city.
However, Hitler then ordered the 6th into Stalingrad...
The one thing that stopped a full advance on Moscow was the diversion of panzers from the attack on Moscow to encircle the forces outside Kiev, which was the biggest encirclement in history.
DerAdler said:The factory would be destroyed and they would continue to build.
They also uprooted their factories and put them together again the otherside of the Urals out of reach of the Germans.DerAdlerIstGelandet said:No read your history books, they continued to produce out of the destroyed factories in besieged cities.
It was a waste of resources having tanks such as the Panzer III or earlier on the battlefield.
Also the Kingtiger was a waste of resources.
If the Germans had of fielded a large army of Panthers they could have been more successful.
Also if they weren't pumping help to Italy they could have devoted more resources to attacking the Allies and winning.
Also more long-sightedness in aircraft design such as redesigning the engines of the He-177 Grief which would have made it an effective Heavy Bomber for Germany.
A squadron or two of Horton flying wings as fighters, fighter-bombers, and bombers would have done a lot of damage to the Allies at least during their initial period in operation.
DerAdler said:I think it would have been a great day fighter. Why would it not have?
schwarzpanzer said:DerAdler said:I think it would have been a great day fighter. Why would it not have?
Dunno, it had stealth ability, good speed/handling, range and could cary 2 seats and a good payload (3 X 1000) so IMHO should have been used to bomb radar installations and intercept radar-eqipped Nightfighters and bombers.
Perhaps not having it as a day-fighter would keep it a secret?
Still, I'm not sure of it's fighter performance. I have the data, I'm just incapable of understanding it.
Cheers for the pics Gnomey.
Is that the plane on CharlesBronsons siggy? 8)
If so, I was gonna ask about that!
schwarzpanzer said:Is that the plane on CharlesBronsons siggy? 8)
If so, I was gonna ask about that!
Thought I recognised it from somewhere. I had a look last night and found the ME264 which I thought was it but it only has 4 engines, thanks for clearing that up Alder.DerAdlerIstGelandet said:schwarzpanzer said:Is that the plane on CharlesBronsons siggy? 8)
If so, I was gonna ask about that!
CharlesBronsons siggy is of a Messerschmitt Me-264/6m which is the 6 engined version of the Me-264.
Here is some info on the 4 engined version. I dont believe any 6 engined versions were completed but I may be wrong.
Type: Ultra Long Range Bomber
Origin: Messerschmitt AG
Engines:
Four 1,700 hp BMW 801D or G 18-cylinder radials
Dimensions:
Span: 43m
Length: 20.90m Height: 4.30m
Weights:
Empty 46,627lb.
Max. Loaded 123,460lb.
Performance:
Max. Speed: 565km/h (351mph)
Max range at 217mph 9,321 miles
There were actually 2 versions. A single seat fighter and a 2 seat day fighter. The V6 was the first 2 seat version.