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La Cuadra never built aircraft engines.
Hispano-Suiza is based in Barcelona.
Any good source to back this up?(and without licence from the 12 Z...),
Any good source to back this up?
Except, if I am not mistaken, the Hispano Suiza V-12s originated in France.
The company was fouded in Paris during the late 1890's, under the name "La Cuadra", but shortly afterwards, La Cuadra hired a Swiss engineer and the company moved to Spain and changed the company's name to "Hispano-Suiza" (Spanish-Swiss).
And there was a a luxury car subsidiary in France which, from the mid 1920s, operated largely independently.
It was that company that made the V-12s of the 1930s.
It was also from them that the British acquired the licence to build the 20mm HS440 cannon.
The Hispano company was into all sorts of things, and that may have been part of the problem.
There were subsidiaries in both Spain and France and other places. Marc Birkigt liked to keep at least a piece of some of the companies that got spun off or got licenses.
There were not only the motor cars but trucks and buses and few gasoline engine powered rail cars. Hispano in Spain also built airplanes. They often did not duplicate what was going in Spain and what was going on in France but they often over lapped.
Birkigt had also designed a lot of the machinery that was used to manufacture the aircraft engines, at least in the Spanish and French Factories. There were about 50,000 of the V-8 WW I engines built in total by a number of different companies (including Wright in the US).
There is no doubt the man was a genius, but he may have been a little too controlling and did not surround himself with enough good men. Not saying he didn't pick good men. Just that many things were getting more complicated with each passing year getting more power and more reliability was getting harder. You needed more good men just to keep up. With the H-S company going in so many different directions things may have been hard. With the world wide depression followed by the Spain civil war and some relocations staying in business at all was more than some companies managed.
From Emmanuel Lage, by the armistice (1918), total production of Hispano-Suiza V-8 engines for the Allies reached a staggering total of 49,893 units, including 35,189 manufactured in France, 8,976 in the United States, 3,050 in Great Britain, 2 566 in Italy and 112 in Spain.
In 1920, owing to some tax problems, Hispano-Suiza became a french company "Société Française Hispano-Suiza" and the W and V-12 engines development and production was made at Bois-Colombes near Paris, as were all 1915-1918 versions of the famous V-8.
For the record, the Soviet Klimov M-100 to VK-108 series which derived with licenses from the Hispano-Suiza 12 Y (and without licence from the 12 Z...), was produced in more than 100,000 units.
SaparotRob wins the internet with that one.Hispano-Suizas are made by elves living in a hollow tree and there's no factory.
I too had missed Klimov VK-107 - help needed. Thanks for the heads up.
It is an old thread and Baball, and probably others, has/have since provided manuals for the engine which makes it easier to understand how it all worked. That Klimov definitely looks like an overdeveloped ww1 engine rather than a late 30s on engine.
You should read more. Particularly the R-R Merlin Vs Allison V-1710 debates!I voted England, mainly for the Merlin.
In my view it was the most successful engine, running in 39 and developed until 45 with an incredible development. Other Countries had great engines, but the Merlin has powered everything and was always on top of performances.
While the Allison and Daimler-Benz engines were close contenders, the Merlin was at the head of the class.You should read more. Particularly the R-R Merlin Vs Allison V-1710 debates!
The L-4, was originally supposed to be powered by the 3 cylinder LaNappe Papoose but Piper wasn't having any of it, so what are you saying?Lycoming also provided engines for observation aircraft, like the J-3.
They also built a monster radial, the XR-7755, but it was developed too late to enter service.
What I am saying, is that Lycoming produced the O-145 H-4 engine that was installed in the Piper O-59/L-4/NE-1 and J-5 as well as the Taylorcraft O-57 and Aeronca O-58/L-3.The L-4, was originally supposed to be powered by the 3 cylinder LaNappe Papoose but Piper wasn't having any of it, so what are you saying?
The L-19 was powered by a 470 flat six and The Stinson L-1 was powered by an R-680...but what does any of this have to do with the Continental 0-170 I mentioned?What I am saying, is that Lycoming produced the O-145 H-4 engine that was installed in the Piper O-59/L-4/NE-1 and J-5 as well as the Taylorcraft O-57 and Aeronca O-58/L-3.
As far as the Lenape 3-cyl. radial - it was proposed but very few were ever installed under the J-3P model.
The vast majority of the J-3 models used Franklin, Continental and Lycoming 4-cyl. engines.