FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Read the thread on the -39, there's a lot more too what you say.....The Nerd said:
Worst aircraft of WW2?
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Yes while I happen to not like the P-39 either, what are you reasons. It is hard to say something sucks and not explain why you feel so.
loomaluftwaffe
Tech Sergeant
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worse enough to kill bf109s and get good aces?
i think u should look at d other side of europe
i think u should look at d other side of europe
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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there were buffalo aces, that doesn't make them great planes 
book1182
Airman
I would have to say the worst airplane of World War 2 would have to be the Fairey Battle. It was a concept that was a left over from World War 1. A single engine bomber??? How could that survive against at
Bf-109!?!?!?! It's bomb load was around 1,000 pounds and they even tried to turn it into a carrier fighter... What an even worse idea.
Also I don't know were that other guy gets off saying the P-39 was the worst. As shown above there are far more bad airplanes.
Bf-109!?!?!?! It's bomb load was around 1,000 pounds and they even tried to turn it into a carrier fighter... What an even worse idea.
Also I don't know were that other guy gets off saying the P-39 was the worst. As shown above there are far more bad airplanes.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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yes i think the battle should eb considdered 
loomaluftwaffe
Tech Sergeant
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the battle was more or less vulnerable than a stuka but didnt even do as well as d stuka. merlin engines dont scare ppl as much as stukas with dove horns and also the engines roaring as they execute a dive.
the battle sucked, good when it was new, light machine gun fodder in 1939
the battle sucked, good when it was new, light machine gun fodder in 1939
loomaluftwaffe said:
I dont quite understand what you are saying with this. While I am not saying that P-39 was the worst aircraft. I hardly think it was remotly close to the worst aircraft, it was certainly outclassed by the Bf-109. As Lanc has said the Buffalo had aces, does that make it a good plane?
loomaluftwaffe
Tech Sergeant
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i stand corrected L0Lx
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cheddar cheese
Major General
book1182 said:
At least it could fly, unlike a certain Italian GA plane I can think about
Vassili Zaitzev
Master Sergeant
I'd say the F2A Brewster buffalo is one of the worst aircraft in WW2, at least in the battle of Midway. After the vicious dogfight near midway in which the Marine fighter squadron VMF-221 was decimated, one of the surviving pilots said. " Anyone who goes up in a Buffalo should be chalked off as dead even before they enter combat". that tells ya something.
Vassili Zaitzev
Master Sergeant
I'd say the F2A Brewster buffalo is one of the worst aircraft in WW2, at least in the battle of Midway. After the vicious dogfight near midway in which the Marine fighter squadron VMF-221 was decimated, one of the surviving pilots said. " Anyone who goes up in a Buffalo should be chalked off as dead even before they enter combat". that tells ya something.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Tell that to these guys....
Hans Henrik Wind
Second highest scoring ace of the Finnish Air Force during second world war was Hans "Hasse" Wind.
Born: 30.7.1919 in Tammisaari. Died: 24.7.1995 in Tampere.
Score: 75 kills in 302 sorties.
Wind served first as a Leutnant and later as a Captain in Lentolaivue 24 during the Continuation War. Wind scored his first victory (a Soviet I-15bis fighter) on 27 September 1941. flying a Brewster B-239 numbered BW-367. Wind achieved total of 39 kills with the Brewsters.
The top Finnish Ace, Eino Juutilainen attained 33 of his 94 victories in the Buffalo.
Hans Henrik Wind
Second highest scoring ace of the Finnish Air Force during second world war was Hans "Hasse" Wind.
Born: 30.7.1919 in Tammisaari. Died: 24.7.1995 in Tampere.
Score: 75 kills in 302 sorties.
Wind served first as a Leutnant and later as a Captain in Lentolaivue 24 during the Continuation War. Wind scored his first victory (a Soviet I-15bis fighter) on 27 September 1941. flying a Brewster B-239 numbered BW-367. Wind achieved total of 39 kills with the Brewsters.
The top Finnish Ace, Eino Juutilainen attained 33 of his 94 victories in the Buffalo.
The Finnish did have some success with the Buffalo, I am still debating with myself what the worst aircraft was in my opinion. I really am not sure. I had my mind made up at one point and then I dont know anymore. Just about all major aircraft had there good points and bad points. Its tuff for me.
Nonskimmer
Captain
It's tough to judge based on the success of individual pilots. The Finns, like the Germans in the east, were up against largely inferior Soviet pilots, so a skilled flyer like Juutilainen in a Buffalo would chalk up a decent record anyway. Having said that, I too have no idea what the actual worst fighter was.
102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
Italy's Breda Ba.65 may very well have been the worst attack plane of the war.
It did suck but it was not ugly, in fact it was beautiful plane.
It did suck but it was not ugly, in fact it was beautiful plane.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Ba.88 - any aircraft that ends it's career as a decoy has to be on the worse ever list!
102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
"Helldiver!" What a great name! But what a lousy airplane!
Tough to fly, poorly designed, and delivered too slowly, the Curtiss SB2C comes somewhere near the top of most lists of "Worst Aircraft of World War Two." Of course, that judgement is no reflection on the crews who had to fly "The Beast," who were as brave, skilled, and resourceful as any other pilots - perhaps more so!
The poor results of the SB2C program contributed to the decline of the once-great Curtiss aircraft manufacturing company. After WWII, the company never won any more significant military business, and eventually shrank into a specialty supplier to the industry.
Tough to fly, poorly designed, and delivered too slowly, the Curtiss SB2C comes somewhere near the top of most lists of "Worst Aircraft of World War Two." Of course, that judgement is no reflection on the crews who had to fly "The Beast," who were as brave, skilled, and resourceful as any other pilots - perhaps more so!
The poor results of the SB2C program contributed to the decline of the once-great Curtiss aircraft manufacturing company. After WWII, the company never won any more significant military business, and eventually shrank into a specialty supplier to the industry.
I have to agree that its has to be the Battle. The Buffalo was actually a pretty manuverable plane with a good engine but once the put all those unnessesary things like guns, armor, radios, y'know the stuff that makes a fighter a fighter, it made it suck.
As far as the Battle, I was watching a terrible movie this weekend called Flying Fortress. The end had a faux Winston voice doing a speech about how the RAF and jolly 'ol England would survive through the RAF. One of the planes that they showcased in the ending montage was the Battle, and many formations worth! Talk about a propaganda machine!
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As far as the Battle, I was watching a terrible movie this weekend called Flying Fortress. The end had a faux Winston voice doing a speech about how the RAF and jolly 'ol England would survive through the RAF. One of the planes that they showcased in the ending montage was the Battle, and many formations worth! Talk about a propaganda machine!
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102first_hussars said:
Actually I have talked to some Helldiver pilots and once all the kinks were worked out, many of them liked the Helldiver over the Dauntless. By Okinawa they were a good plane with a pretty good service record. I think the Helldiver suffered the same fate as the B-26, we only remember the bad aspects. Also the Greeks used them with great success in thier post WWII civil war.
But I am still a SBD fan!
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