FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Rookie? How much combat experience do you think the Finns had?!?! "0"!!!!Vassili Zaitzev said:
Training, training, training - the Finns were better trained but had NO combat experience, unlike the Soviets.....
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Training, training, training - the Finns were better trained but had NO combat experience, unlike the Soviets.....
Vassili Zaitzev
Master Sergeant
okay, so if the soviets had combat experience, how come some the top Finnish pilots with no pre-combat experience stave off a airforce bigger than its own?
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
They were better trained and basically they fought for their very existence - its amazing what a little incentive will do!!Vassili Zaitzev said:
Here's a good site about the Finns and their WW2 participation:
http://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/war/finland/summary.html
loomaluftwaffe
Tech Sergeant
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they don't use big formation tactics, if they encounter a huge formation theirs is like so far apart, and the Finns also had experience with their D.XXIs from the winter war, before they got their Buffaloes
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
They arrived too late in the winter war but that's when most of the "Russian Mauling" took place.loomaluftwaffe said:
Bottom line the Finns fought better and were better trained - it was a level playing field and the Finns made the best of it. If anything the Russians should of gotten better and mauled the Buffalo during the Constitution War if the aircraft was truly that bad.....
loomaluftwaffe
Tech Sergeant
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what really was the primary fighter of the Finnish during the continuation war? Buffalo? Fokker? 109?
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
I would say the 109 - since it was the only aircraft where a spares and support system was available....
Bullockracing
Airman 1st Class
Didn't they fly the P-36 Hawk as well?
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Yes, they had 44 of them they purchased from Germany. These were captured after the fall of France.Bullockracing said:
Vassili Zaitzev
Master Sergeant
I just read that website by FlyboyJ on the winter war, whoa, whole soviet infantry divisions wiped out.
loomaluftwaffe
Tech Sergeant
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quite an embarrasment to the Ruskies ain't it?
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Yep - the Finns were ferocius on the ground and in the air...Vassili Zaitzev said:
Actually fear - after WW2 they limited the Finnish military by treaty. Till today I believe the Russians have a great fear of fighting the Finns...loomaluftwaffe said:
Although the Finns have always professed their neutrality, unlike other European neutrals (Switzerland, Sweden) these guys put their money where their mouths were!!!
blue swede
Airman
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A lot of Finnish soldiers were able to flee into Sweden for refuge from the Soviets. The Soviets stopped at the Swedish border.
P38 Pilot
Tech Sergeant
FLYBOYJ said:
I think almost 1 million Russians wounded, killed, or missing in action were all do to Finland. Those guys were tough!
Soundbreaker Welch?
Tech Sergeant
I agree. The Buff did wonders.
Allison Johnson
Airman
Saro Lerwick was a bit of a pig too.mosquitoman said:
Ali
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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a bad plane that doesn't enter service will always be better than a bad plane that does enter service, (save for the odd crash) a bad plane that doesn't enter service causes no deaths, a bad plane that does enter service (the battle for example) will cost you hundreds of good men.........
The Battle wasn't a bad plane when it entered service. In fact, compared to the Audax and Hart that it was replacing it was quite revolutionary. But then the Blenheim that entered service at the same time with 2 Group was the fastest bomber in the world, and could out-run all RAF interceptors of the day. And this was proven in the Air Defence Great Britain exercises when 11 and 10 Group both could achieve minimal intercepts on 2 Group Blenheims.
I'm not saying the Battle was a good plane, but the situation it was thrown into with the Advanced Air Striking Force was always going to be costly. The Battle suffered heavy losses because of German efficiency in setting up effective AA batteries along the whole course of their advance in France. The Ju 87 in the exact same situation would have been slaughtered in equal measure.
I'm not saying the Battle was a good plane, but the situation it was thrown into with the Advanced Air Striking Force was always going to be costly. The Battle suffered heavy losses because of German efficiency in setting up effective AA batteries along the whole course of their advance in France. The Ju 87 in the exact same situation would have been slaughtered in equal measure.
