Worst aircraft of WW2? (3 Viewers)

FLYBOYJ · Apr 6, 2006

Vassili Zaitzev said:
The F2A buffalo was good in the hands of experienced finnish pilots who went up against rookie russian pilots in inferior planes. I would rate the buffalo as the worst fighter in the pacific, since the A6M2 Zero could fly circles around it and blow it out of the sky.

Rookie? How much combat experience do you think the Finns had?!?! "0"!!!!

Training, training, training - the Finns were better trained but had NO combat experience, unlike the Soviets.....

Vassili Zaitzev · Apr 6, 2006

okay, so if the soviets had combat experience, how come some the top Finnish pilots with no pre-combat experience stave off a airforce bigger than its own?

FLYBOYJ · Apr 6, 2006

Vassili Zaitzev said:
okay, so if the soviets had combat experience, how come some the top Finnish pilots with no pre-combat experience stave off a airforce bigger than its own?

They were better trained and basically they fought for their very existence - its amazing what a little incentive will do!!

Here's a good site about the Finns and their WW2 participation:

http://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/war/finland/summary.html

loomaluftwaffe · Apr 7, 2006

they don't use big formation tactics, if they encounter a huge formation theirs is like so far apart, and the Finns also had experience with their D.XXIs from the winter war, before they got their Buffaloes

FLYBOYJ · Apr 7, 2006

loomaluftwaffe said:
they don't use big formation tactics, if they encounter a huge formation theirs is like so far apart, and the Finns also had experience with their D.XXIs from the winter war, before they got their Buffaloes

They arrived too late in the winter war but that's when most of the "Russian Mauling" took place.

Bottom line the Finns fought better and were better trained - it was a level playing field and the Finns made the best of it. If anything the Russians should of gotten better and mauled the Buffalo during the Constitution War if the aircraft was truly that bad.....

loomaluftwaffe · Apr 7, 2006

what really was the primary fighter of the Finnish during the continuation war? Buffalo? Fokker? 109?

FLYBOYJ · Apr 8, 2006

I would say the 109 - since it was the only aircraft where a spares and support system was available....

Bullockracing · Apr 10, 2006

Didn't they fly the P-36 Hawk as well?

FLYBOYJ · Apr 10, 2006

Bullockracing said:
Didn't they fly the P-36 Hawk as well?

Yes, they had 44 of them they purchased from Germany. These were captured after the fall of France.

Vassili Zaitzev · Apr 11, 2006

I just read that website by FlyboyJ on the winter war, whoa, whole soviet infantry divisions wiped out.

loomaluftwaffe · Apr 11, 2006

quite an embarrasment to the Ruskies ain't it?

FLYBOYJ · Apr 11, 2006

Vassili Zaitzev said:
I just read that website by FlyboyJ on the winter war, whoa, whole soviet infantry divisions wiped out.

Yep - the Finns were ferocius on the ground and in the air...

loomaluftwaffe said:
quite an embarrasment to the Ruskies ain't it?

Actually fear - after WW2 they limited the Finnish military by treaty. Till today I believe the Russians have a great fear of fighting the Finns...

Although the Finns have always professed their neutrality, unlike other European neutrals (Switzerland, Sweden) these guys put their money where their mouths were!!!

blue swede · Apr 14, 2006

A lot of Finnish soldiers were able to flee into Sweden for refuge from the Soviets. The Soviets stopped at the Swedish border.

P38 Pilot · Aug 9, 2006

FLYBOYJ said:
Yep - the Finns were ferocius on the ground and in the air...
Actually fear - after WW2 they limited the Finnish military by treaty. Till today I believe the Russians have a great fear of fighting the Finns...

Although the Finns have always professed their neutrality, unlike other European neutrals (Switzerland, Sweden) these guys put their money where their mouths were!!!

I think almost 1 million Russians wounded, killed, or missing in action were all do to Finland. Those guys were tough!

Soundbreaker Welch? · Aug 9, 2006

I agree. The Buff did wonders.

Allison Johnson · Aug 22, 2006

mosquitoman said:
That's why I think the Botha is the worst, it never even saw combat

Saro Lerwick was a bit of a pig too.

Ali

the lancaster kicks ass · Aug 23, 2006

a bad plane that doesn't enter service will always be better than a bad plane that does enter service, (save for the odd crash) a bad plane that doesn't enter service causes no deaths, a bad plane that does enter service (the battle for example) will cost you hundreds of good men.........

plan_D · Aug 23, 2006

The Battle wasn't a bad plane when it entered service. In fact, compared to the Audax and Hart that it was replacing it was quite revolutionary. But then the Blenheim that entered service at the same time with 2 Group was the fastest bomber in the world, and could out-run all RAF interceptors of the day. And this was proven in the Air Defence Great Britain exercises when 11 and 10 Group both could achieve minimal intercepts on 2 Group Blenheims.

I'm not saying the Battle was a good plane, but the situation it was thrown into with the Advanced Air Striking Force was always going to be costly. The Battle suffered heavy losses because of German efficiency in setting up effective AA batteries along the whole course of their advance in France. The Ju 87 in the exact same situation would have been slaughtered in equal measure.

Allison Johnson · Aug 24, 2006

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAIIY5SjDGI

Espcially like the music.

k9kiwi · Aug 24, 2006

Just goes to prove there are more planes under the water than submarines in the sky.

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