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[Wurger]

Yes, that's OK.

 

[Alecras234]

So here i could say, who led the german army into East Prussia in? in what year?

War had begun on the Eastern Front. Two Russian armies bore down into East Prussia, while the German army was led by the formidable duo of Generals Paul von Hindenburg and Erich Ludendorff. The Germans, in full possession of Russian plans, decimated the first Russian army.

 

[Wurger]

Yes.. the Gen Hindenburg and Ludendorff...

in what year ? ... 1914... we have already been discussing that. See our posts 250 to 253 on the page 13 of the thread. In my post 253 you will find more and the answer too. Below is the link to tha page no.13

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[Alecras234]

yes im trying to understand how to put the question, Who led the german army into East Prussia in 1914? Does that sound ok instead of saying,

22 August 1914 - Gen.Paul von Hindenburg became the commander of the 8th Army
22 August 1914 - Gen Erich Ludendorf became the Chief of Staff of the 8th Army.

 

[Wurger]

It sounds OK.

 

[Alecras234]

How do these sound please? Taken from paragraph of my book. im not sure about them

How many Russian armies went into East Prussia in 1914? Two
Who led the German army into eastern Prussia in 1914? Gen Paul Von Hindenburg and Erich Ludendorff
who decimated the first Russian army in 1914? Germany
Who was Russian commander in 1914? Alexander Samsonov
How did Alexander Samsonov die? Shot himself
Where did Alexander Samsonov shoot himself? in a forest

War had begun on the Eastern Front. Two Russian armies bore down into East Prussia, while the German army was led by the formidable duo of Generals Paul von Hindenburg and Erich Ludendorff. The Germans, in full possession of Russian plans, decimated the first Russian army. 'The tsar trusted me,' wailed the Russian commander, Alexander Samsonov. 'How can I ever face him again?' He didn't – he walked into a nearby wood and shot himself. The second Russian army fared no better.

 

[Wurger]

It sounds OK Alec.

However Gen. Alexander Samsonov was the commander of the Russian 2nd Army only. The commander of the Russian 1st Army was Gen. Paul Rennenkampf. So may be it would be worth to add the info to the fourth point.

"Who was Russian commander of the 2nd Army in 1914? Gen. Alexander Samsonov"

 

[Alecras234]

Do these make sense vor can they be worded differently?

How many Russian armies went into East Prussia in 1914? Two
Who led the German army into eastern Prussia in 1914? Gen Paul Von Hindenburg and Erich Ludendorff
who decimated the first Russian army in 1914? Germany

 

[Wurger]

These are OK.

Just a note.. initailly the German 8th Army was leading by gen. Maximilian von Prittwitz. Because of his incompetence he was fired on 22 August 1914 with his Chief of the Staff together. On the same day Hindenburg and Ludendorff were assigned to be the new Commander and the Chief of Staff of the 8th Army.

 

[Alecras234]

Like this? Shall i delete the first point?

How many Russian armies went into East Prussia in 1914? Two
Who led the German army into eastern Prussia in 1914? Gen Paul Von Hindenburg and Erich Ludendorff
who decimated the first Russian army in 1914? Germany
Who was Russian commander of the 2nd Army in 1914? Gen. Alexander Samsonov
How did Alexander Samsonov die? Shot himself
Where did Alexander Samsonov shoot himself? in a forest

 

[Wurger]

That's OK There is no need to delete of any points. Just perfect !.

 

[Alecras234]

Yes that's in that way...
Also you may add a couple of additional points to the section about beginning of the war. The info there can be who else declared the war and when ...
Also I would change the order of the second and third points in your first section...
Additionally , the point of the number of the BEF soldiers should be moved to the section about the BEF...
I have edited it for you , see below..


Austria Hungary annexed Bosnia
The Bosnian Serbs wanted Bosnia to be independent of Austria Hungary.
Gavrilo Princip - Bosnian Serb
Archduke Franz Ferdinand – Heir to Austria Hungary Empire
Franz Ferdinand and his wife went to inspect Army – 28 June 1914
Gavrilo Princip killed Franz Ferdinand and his wife in Sarajevo
(here two or three points more )

Battle plan designed by Alfred Von Shlieffen – 1905
Shlieffen plan was intended to avoid a two front war by defeating France in less than 6 weeks
Germany planned on attacking France via Belgium
Alfred Von Shlieffen died – 1913
Shlieffen plan used in 1914

August 2 1914, Germany demanded access into Belgium and being refused
August 3 1914, Germany attacked Belgium
August 4 1914, Britain declared war on Germany


The BEF – 80,000 men
The first battle of the BEF – 23 August 1914 , Belgium, Mons
The BEF stopped the Germans advance and caused a lot of casualties on Germans.
Creating the legend of the Angels of Mons
German army advance through Belgium to France
The retreating French Army and BEF reached the Marne River.
Gen. Gallieni sent more French troops to River Marne by taxi
The battle of Marne - 5-9 September 1914
The French Army and BEF stopped the German advancing further than River Marne

Does this sound ok?

What year did Austria Hungary annex Bosnia? 1908
Why was Franz Ferdinand killed? Because Bosnian Serbs weren't happy about being part of Austria Hungary.
What nationality was Gavrilo Princip - Bosnian Serb
When was Franz Ferdinand and his wife shot? - 28 June 1914
Who shot Franz Ferdinand and his wife? Gavrilo Princip

 

[Wurger]

Yes that's OK.

 

[Alecras234]

sorry is this right? Why was Franz Ferdinand killed? Because Bosnian Serbs weren't happy about being part of Austria Hungary.

 

[Wurger]

Yes Alec. This is right.

 

[Alecras234]

im getting muddled with all the alliances of ww1. If Austria Hungary declared war on Serbia on 28 July 1914, Russia helped Serbia by attacking Austria Hungary, is that right? Then Austria Hungary asked Germany to help the fight against Russia. Can i do a Question and answer on the alliances to remember who fought who?

 

[DBII]

Sorry, I late to the thread. I like military maps and overlays. If you learn the symbols, a map will give you lots of non verbal information in a simple format. It may be easier to learn.

 

[Alecras234]

Look at this you mean?

 

[Wurger]

.. If Austria Hungary declared war on Serbia on 28 July 1914, Russia helped Serbia by attacking Austria Hungary, is that right?

It is right.

.. then Austria Hungary asked Germany to help the fight against Russia.

Nope. The Austria-Hungary had had the alliance earlier. Just after the attack on the Archduke Franz Ferdinad, the Germany announced the support for the Austria-Hungary. So having the German's backup the Austria-Hungary sent the Serbia the ultimatum.

..Can i do a Question and answer on the alliances to remember who fought who?

Of course you can if you want.

 

[Alecras234]

Do these sound ok or should i not memorize the last three as they are the same dates?

When did Austria-Hungary send Serbia an ultimatum? 23 July 1914
When did Austria-Hungary declare war on Serbia? 28 July 1914
When did Russia start mobilization to help Serbia? 29 July 1914
When did Germany demand access into Belgium and was refused - August 2 1914
When did Germany attack Belgium - August 3 1914,
When did Britain declare war on Germany - August 4 1914

When did France start mobilization against Germany? 1 August 1914
When did Germany declare war on Russia? 1 August 1914
When did Germany declare war on France? 3 August 1914