A-10 to the Ukrainians? Recent comments by the Air Force secretary suggest a way out for the USAF from A-10 ownership (1 Viewer)

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They could definitely be useful. Like I said the "Shithook" as we Hawk guys called them is an excellent helicopter.

The German's just placed an order for the latest Chinook variant. I have to admit, she looks good with those crosses on their fuselages.

 

Insertions like that could work, but I'd not want to have A-10s weaving nearby and drawing attention. But yes, going where they ain't would have to be the thing. You don't want to go where they are in that battlefield, flying low and slow.
 
Not huge, but most of the river fleet was at bases in Zaporizhye and further north on the first day of the invasion. Can it be effective without air superiority... I'm not sure.
I wasn't expecting good news from my dumb joke. That is something I wasn't expecting. Of course without heavy duty support, it is extremely vulnerable. However, having riverine capability is certainly good news.
 
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I suppose I'm influenced by Red Dawn, but I'm a big fan of the Hind attack 'copter. Can the ex-WP states scrounge up any?

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I cannot speak for any country other than Russia, but we were banned from flying in tjr Russian Hind's in Kosovo because they were so poorly maintained.

When flying, they were neat to see though.

 
Is there any Western attack helicopter besides the Apache and Cobra/Viper that would be useful for Ukraine? I've not read good things on the survivability of the Agusta Mangusta. What of the Eurocopter Tiger?
 
I wasn't expecting good news from my dumb joke. That is something I wasn't expecting. Of course without heavy duty support, it is extremely vulnerable. However, having riverine capability is certainly good news.
It's good that you reminded about the possibility. Internal waterways are rarely discussed during this war.
At least, that fleet can be used for moving overweight/sized equipment. Also to increase the degree of redundancy overall, as bridges are so vulnerable.
 
civilian hinds could be re-armed or used for spare parts
Providing the civilian owners want to give up their aircraft. I've seen a Hind in Texas several years ago and it was really stripped down and "very demilitarized." Additionally many of the desirable parts are life-limited and you'll find many of these aircraft have components, although airworthy, are almost timed out. Depending what parts you're talking about, it's better to build or acquire "new" rather than cannibilize, especially when it comes to rotor wing aircraft.
 
Is there any Western attack helicopter besides the Apache and Cobra/Viper that would be useful for Ukraine? I've not read good things on the survivability of the Agusta Mangusta. What of the Eurocopter Tiger?

How about the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior? Strictly speaking not an attack helicopter as such. but could be used as one , and has been used as one before. I believe it has been recently retired from US Army service - could be a lot of airframes still in storage?
 
I was going to suggest the same. This is an old photo but a pretty robust bird.





photos from the internet
 
There was a squadron of Hinds in Alexandria, La about 20-25 years ago (U.S. Army) used for OPFOR training.
 

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