A Japanese Purchased a Zero in the U.S.

contrails16 · Jul 31, 2020

Any recent updates on this Zero? Thanks all

SaparotRob · Jul 31, 2020

Glad this thread got reopened. The picture of those 3 Zeros was awesome. Before I moved back from California, I made it to the "Planes of Fame" (1986). I saw some warbirds flying. Saw great aircraft I had only read about. What I really remember though, is standing in front of an actual Zero. Maybe the engine wasn't original but I didn't know. An actual Zero. Wow.

Dash119 · Jul 31, 2020

If it was the POF Zero, then yes it was the original engine. POF has the only airworthy Zero with the original engine.

SaparotRob · Jul 31, 2020

Dash119 said:
If it was the POF Zero, then yes it was the original engine. POF has the only airworthy Zero with the original engine.

HOME RUN!

Dash119 · Jul 31, 2020

evangilder said:
How long has it been since a Zero has flown over Japan?

The POF Zero has made 3 trips to Japan since is was restored to flying status in 1979. I would assume that the first trip over in 1979 marked the first flight of a Zero over Japan since the end of WWII.

SaparotRob · Jul 31, 2020

Dash119 said:
The POF Zero has made 3 trips to Japan since is was restored to flying status in 1979. I would assume that the first trip over in 1979 marked the first flight of a Zero over Japan since the end of WWII.

Was it shipped to Japan disassembled?

MIflyer · Jul 31, 2020

It is very difficult to dismantle a Zero. The wing is one piece and the fuselage will not hold together with the wing off, unlike an F4F or P-51 or other US fighters, or for that matter, my Ercoupe.

SaparotRob · Jul 31, 2020

MIflyer said:
It is very difficult to dismantle a Zero. The wing is one piece and the fuselage will not hold together with the wing off, unlike an F4F or P-51 or other US fighters, or for that matter, my Ercoupe.View attachment 590329 View attachment 590330
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That's what I was wondering about. I've read about the construction of the Zero on some aviation site . I would think, stressed for 6G's or not, an irreplaceable Zero is not something you'd want take apart and reassemble. Yet it must have been difficult to ship unless you had a Jeep carrier laying around.

Dash119 · Jul 31, 2020

I know that one time it was lifted onto the deck of a ship in one piece, and then temporary "hanger" was the built around it. I have also read that once it was disassembled and shipped in containers.

Any complete aircraft restoration requires complete or nearly complete disassembly and then reassembly, regardless of the type

SaparotRob · Jul 31, 2020

Thanks for the information. Any pictures of the Zero being shipped?

Dash119 · Jul 31, 2020

I have seen pictures of the intact Zero onboard the ship, but I don't know if they are available online. A quick search online doesn't seem to show any. I may have seen them at the museum...

SaparotRob · Jul 31, 2020

Thanks again. I'll have fun seeing if I can find it.

nuuumannn · Aug 2, 2020

MIflyer said:
It is very difficult to dismantle a Zero.

Well, depends on how you do it. No, the wing is not designed to be removed from the centre section, but the whole rear fuselage separates aft of the cockpit, which was a feature purposely designed for ease of maintenance and shipping. The wing tips also fold upwards to reduce the length of the centre section and wing. Removing the engine is not a difficult task and that nose cowl comes off in large easy sections. So, in many respects its actually a lot easier to dismantle a Zero for shipping than most aircraft of the period.

You can see the split as the vertical line running from in front of the lower step to the aft portion of the rear canopy.

Detail fuselage centre section

The IWM Zero centre section with its rear fuselage missing, note that the spar has been cut.

IWM Zero centre section

nuuumannn · Aug 2, 2020

Dash119 said:
The POF Zero has made 3 trips to Japan since is was restored to flying status in 1979.

In 2012/2013 it was placed in the Tokorozawa Aviation Museum in the north of Tokyo for an exhibition on the type. Tokorozawa is notable as it was the first purpose built military airfield in Japan and the site of the airfield is now a public park with an aviation museum. An aircraft manufacturing plant and airship shed were built at Tokorozawa, so it has considerable significance in Japanese aviation history. In the museum is a reproduction of the first indigenous Japanese aircraft, a modified Farman biplane.

N4521U · Jun 18, 2022

It's such a shame Mitsubishi took such a hit with the Space Jet.
A nice looking aircraft.
Thanks for starting this thread Shinpachi!!

Shinpachi · Jun 19, 2022

N4521U said:
It's such a shame Mitsubishi took such a hit with the Space Jet.
A nice looking aircraft.
Thanks for starting this thread Shinpachi!!

Thanks Bill for your interest.

"The M90 (the MRJ90 renamed) should seat 86 to 96, while the smaller MRJ70 was to accommodate 70 to 80 passengers. The MRJ70 was replaced by the SpaceJet M100, stretched by 1.1 m (3 ft 7 in) to better meet US scope clauses at 76 seats with premium seating. It is comparable with the Embraer E-Jet E2. (Source: Wiki)"

Living outside the US, Mitsubishi relied on the US market too much.
Would be a good experience for them.

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