Aircraft Wheels ID

[YoungManGoneWest]

I would be grateful for any assistance please in identifying the aircraft from which these wheels come. The first two hubs (first photo) are 13 and 3/4" in diameter, and stamped AH 10020/2, pair thereof. The third hub (second photo) is 16 and 5/8" in diameter, and stamped AH 50286 Issue 2, one thereof. I do not know whether they are from the same aircraft. Any assistance much appreciated. Thank-you. Regards, Richard

 

[SaparotRob]

Hi and welcome to the Forum. I'm sure someone who actually knows stuff will be around soon.

 

[Crimea_River]

First one appears to be a Dunlop wheel, possibly Spitfire. I have part number AH 10019 on the PR XIX. Maybe MiTasol knows more.

 

[YoungManGoneWest]

Thanks Crimea. The wheels have Dunlop tyres on them. PR XIX: as far as I can tell, these had three 'spoke' wheels? Regards, Richard

 

[Crimea_River]

Very possible. I was just noting the similarity in part numbers. It's the only refernce I have that lists spitfire part numbers.

 

[MiTasol]

I would be grateful for any assistance please in identifying the aircraft from which these wheels come. The first two hubs (first photo) are 13 and 3/4" in diameter, and stamped AH 10020/2, pair thereof. The third hub (second photo) is 16 and 5/8" in diameter, and stamped AH 50286 Issue 2, one thereof. I do not know whether they are from the same aircraft. Any assistance much appreciated. Thank-you. Regards, Richard

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Welcome aboard
AH part numbers indicate Dunlop so that is a start
The first wheel is almost certainly early/mid 40's but the second is almost certainly post war both from the part number and the use of inhex bolts although knock off rims were mainly replaced by split rims by then. Can you please advise the tyre sizes as it is often easier to find the wheel from that. The Spitfire used several wheels but I doubt the first wheel is Spitfire as it has screw holes for a hub cap and I cannot remember any Spitfires with hub caps - not a great fan of the aircraft tho so no doubt someone will pop up a photo of a version with hubcaps.

 

[Snautzer01]

not a great fan of the aircraf

Thats fighting talk.

 

[Crimea_River]

...... no doubt someone will pop up a photo of a version with hubcaps.

Yep. Plain covers could be screwed on and were not uncommon.

 

[Crimea_River]

Found this on our forum regarding AH 10020: Help needes in identifying unknown aircraft wheel

 

[MiTasol]

Thats fighting talk.

You have obviously never worked on one.
The old saying there are three ways to design an aircraft, the right way, the wrong way and the English way was probably inspired by the Spitfire and/or Hurricane and/or .....................

 

[YoungManGoneWest]

All the tyres are Dunlops. Those on the pair of wheels are marked "9.5 - 12 Low Pressure Tyre", and have "27a" in a cartouche. That on the single wheel is marked "27 x 6.00 - 15". Thank-you.

 

[MiTasol]

Thanks - I will see what I can find on the 12 inch rims. It is unlikely I will find anything on the 15 inch rims as I have nothing much post war in my library.

Can you please provide photos of the rear of the wheels so I can see if they are mains or not. I would hate to be looking for a main when it is something like a Lincoln tail wheel or some other aircraft's nose wheel.

For USAAF wheels I have a document that lists all in use in 43 which is sorted by tire size (as the same wheel and/or tire can be used on multiple aircraft, but for RAF I need to read individual manuals and even then they do not always provide the full story. The first few I checked provide part number (surprising me) but equally often just size or just part number. First example is Spitfire I, both P/N and size (10 inch), then Spitfire II just the P/N then Spiteful then the Anson, which again provided both. I would now revise the first part number to late war or early post war as the Spiteful is only AH 8375 and the Spit PR XIX 10019 and the part numbers are in sequential order so the higher the number the later the part.

After I am confident it is a main wheel I think I will concentrate on Dove/Devon/Heron as they are about that size and I do not have those manuals on hand.

It is not Oxford though.

 

[MiTasol]

Bugga. I checked the Oxford as I was positive it was the right size but wrong Part Number and what did I find?

 

[YoungManGoneWest]

Very many thanks for that MiTasol. Attached is a photo of the rear of the pair of wheels (the AH10020 ones). So, from an Oxford?
Regards,
Richard
Richard

 

[YoungManGoneWest]

Visual comparison checks out MiTasol. Thank-you very much.
Is anyone able to ID the other wheel please?
Regards,
Richard

 

[MiTasol]

Yep - definitely Oxford.
Given this is a late war part number for a prewar aircraft I will contact a friend who has the RAAF Oxford Orders (basically modification instructions) and see it their was a mod to replace earlier Dunlop or the Avery wheels. It may shed some light on things. Maybe the Avery wheels became difficult or impossible to get. People do not realise that a lot of companies died during and immediately after WW2 - Warner Aircraft Engines being one of the better known ones in the US. Can't think of a Brit company off the top of my head but there were quite a few.

 

[YoungManGoneWest]

Excellent, really appreciate you doing so MiTasol. Thank-you.
Regards,
Richard

 

[Snautzer01]

You have obviously never worked on one

I worked on lots of them. Never had any problems and they worked like advertised

Spoiler: Here, i found a couple i worked on very smooth and easy

 

[MiTasol]

You lucky blighter - that liquid version looks good but I can assure you the metal version sucks very badly

 

[Crimea_River]

Your other wheel might be found here: