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This was brought up in Oliver Stone's 2016 documentary, supposedly these "Ukrainian Nazis" were terrorizing a Russian speaking population living in the eastern part of the country and has been the basis of some of the reasoning behind Putin's invasion.

I call BS to a point.

No doubt these folks were real. There's also been talk about some of these Nazis were plants by the Kremlin.


Yes, Trump did use these allegations (and other things) for refusal to send arms to Ukraine, I guess these Ukrainian Nazis were not as good as the Nazis who attended Trump rallies!?!



But it looks like some were kicked off Facebook but allowed on a Russian site. - Hey, that's freedom of speech, right?


But then again, many Nazis in the US supported Trump. I guess that didn't matter to Putin.


My point is this twisted ideology can be found in many parts of the world, but is it a representation of ALL the people? NO!

But then again, when Volodymyr Zelenskiy won the 2019 election, he took over 70% of the vote. Not bad for a Jew who supposedly has Nazis running around his country...




"Anyway, I am not a Russian, but it's OK to be Russian."

Agree - but as you pointed out, look who is perpetrating the story...

In the mean time...


I hope Dimlee and some of our other friends who are currently in that part of the world comments on this.
 
In 2014, the Azov unit, by its own drill Sgt's, account ,was 50% Nazi. Their words, not mine.
I'd guess much of the early Bundeswehr soldiers and leaders were former Nazis. I have no doubt there are young, frustrated, angry men in Ukraine seeking a flag-waving nationalist cause that borders on racism and fascism. Peoples opinions and mindsets change, and I expect even the most anti Semitic Ukrainian is now behind their president.
 
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That's a switch!
It's not such a binary POV. Some of the Azov leadership are themselves Jewish and admirers of Israel. Andriy Biletsky, the founder of the Azov Battalion "explained that he regards Israel and Japan as role models for the development of Ukraine".

In 2006 I visited Israel for a week and the Sparta-like, religion/linguistic/ethnic based nationalism and always-ready world class militarism combined with strong democratic and community service traditions, corruption-free governance, free market economy and a lovely, joy-filled, family-focused Mediterranean life would appeal to any people wanting to build a better nation. Just don't ask the Palestinians.
 
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corruption-free governance
I think we can leave this part out.



 
I think we can leave this part out.
We'll said, I should have written corruption-reduced governance. Here in Canada our governments at all level suffer from corruption, but it's lightweight compared to what the former eastern bloc suffered.

On Israel, where Orthodox and Arabs aside, every man and woman is an experienced soldier, can you imagine Russia trying to invade a country as nationally united and militarily organized, experienced and equipped as Israel. Make Ukraine in that guise and Russia is curb stomped by day five.
 
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Stuck in textures..... or something went wrong. Chernigiv region, ukrainian soldiers have hoarded 5 T-80U tanks Rf.
14.03.2022
 

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Keep eyes and ears open for news on Wednesday:

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the Hague has said it will rule on Wednesday on a case brought by Ukraine against Russia, accusing it of falsely justifying its invasion.

Ukraine filed the case soon after the Russian invasion on 24 February. It accuses Russia of using false claims that Ukrainian forces were committing genocide in separatist-held areas of the Donbas region as a pretext to attack.

Russian officials did not appear at an earlier hearing at the UN's World Court on 7 March.

In a statement, the ICJ said that the court will deliver its order at 1600 local time (1500 GMT) on Wednesday, 16 March.

A separate war crimes investigation has also been launched by the International Criminal Court to look into allegations of war crimes committed in Ukraine.
 
Nearly all Russian advances in Ukraine remain stalled due in part to "creative" strikes from the Ukrainians limiting the ability of Kremlin forces to resupply, a senior U.S. defense official said Monday.

The Ukrainians "have effectively struck at the Russian logistics and sustainment capabilities," the official told reporters.

"As we've said all along, they've been quite creative here. They're not simply going after combat capability — tanks and armored vehicles and shooting down aircraft. Although they're doing all that, they are also deliberately trying to impede and prevent the Russians' ability to sustain themselves."

The official also said "almost all of Russia's advances remain stalled" on the ground in Ukraine, with forces moving toward Kyiv showing no "appreciable change in their progress over the weekend."

Russian forces have made far less progress in Ukraine than was initially expected thanks to a fierce resistance from Ukrainian forces, poor logistical planning and difficulties with sustainment.

That struggle has been on display with a miles-long column of Russian vehicles outside of Kyiv that has barely moved over the course of two weeks.

Russian forces approaching Kyiv from the north, including the convoy, remain about 9 miles outside the city center, the official said.

Although Moscow is trying to flow in forces behind this advance, "that continues, but not at a great pace," they added.

Attacks on the cities of Chernihiv and Kharkiv also remain stalled thanks to the strong Ukrainian resistance, but Chernihiv is now isolated, and Kharkiv has seen an increase in long-range fire missile strikes.

One new development is that the Russians have sent 50 to 60 vehicles towards the town of Izyum in western Ukraine. The assumption is the Kremlin is trying to "prevent the flow westward of any Ukrainian armed forces that would be in the eastern part of the country, prevent them from coming to the assistance of other Ukrainian defenders near Kyiv," according to the official.



Hard to guard one's supply-lines when you've invaded a country the size of Texas with less than 200,000 troops, and every man-jack there is wanting a chance to shoot.
 

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