Escuadrilla Azul
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- Feb 27, 2020
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They do look like beasts aboard the F-16 below. Let's get these to Ukraine now, along with ATACMS. And down goes the Kerch bridge.The author talks about "…the Lockheed Martin Joint Air-to-Surface Strike Missile—a two-ton stealthy cruise missile with a 230-mile range—still is on Kyiv's wish list.
There goes the Russia to Crimea holiday industry.They do look like beasts aboard the F-16 below. Let's get these to Ukraine now, along with ATACMS. And down goes the Kerch bridge.
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Yep. Now, if Vipers are on offer, what is the possible hold up with ATACMS?There goes the Russia to Crimea holiday industry.
On a slightly different tack I am very surprised that Ukraine haven't asked for more attack helicopters, even of the AH1 variety.
A AH-1Z Viper won't be more obsolete than a russian Mi-28 and certainly not than an ukrainian Mi-24/35Interesting point. Any ideas here why Ukraine isn't pushing for attack helicopters? There must be plenty of them around. Are they obsolete on the modern battlefield?
Apparently the Russian Kamovs are causing a lot of trouble for the Ukrainians. The Kamovs are not having an easy war, but they are seeing success in killing Ukrainian vehicles since due to SAM risk, Ukraine's MiGs and Sukhois cannot effectively operate close to the front lines. The Kamovs need only fear MANPADS over the front, which cannot be everywhere.Interesting point. Any ideas here why Ukraine isn't pushing for attack helicopters? There must be plenty of them around. Are they obsolete on the modern battlefield?
It is interesting that the only NATO-designed helicopters sent to Ukraine since the war began were a trio of retired former Royal Navy Sea Kings, stripped of their ASW gear and converted to transports. Mind you, lots of Russian-designed helicopters have been sent to Ukraine, including the USA's fleet of MiLs originally used in Afghanistan, plus many from former Warsaw Pact countries.Umm, so anyway, why so few helicopters to Ukraine?
I liked reading "tactically significant" on ISW last night with respect to advances around Robotyne. Very good news and sounds good to me.KYIV, Aug 22 (Reuters) - Ukraine said on Tuesday its troops had entered the strategic southeastern village of Robotyne, a potentially significant advance in its counteroffensive against Russian forces.
Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Maliar said on the Telegram messaging app that Ukrainian soldiers were organising the evacuation of civilians after entering Robotyne but were still coming under fire from Russian forces.
"Our soldiers in the village of Robotyne," General Oleksandr Tarnavskyi, commander of Ukrainian forces in the south, wrote on Telegram under a picture of a soldier in a tank.
Robotyne is 10 km (six miles) south of the frontline town of Orikhiv in the Zaporizhzhia region on an important road towards Tokmak, a Russian-occupied road and rail hub.
Tokmak's capture would be a milestone as Ukrainian troops press southwards towards the Sea of Azov, a military push intended to split Russian occupying forces.
The Institute for the Study of War, an American research group and think tank, has described the Ukrainian attacks on Robotyne as "tactically significant". Advancing in the area could enable Ukrainian forces to begin operating beyond the densest of the Russian minefields that have held up the counteroffensive launched in early June, it said.
Ukraine says it gains foothold in strategic southeastern village
Ukraine said on Tuesday its troops had entered the strategic southeastern village of Robotyne, a potentially significant advance in its counteroffensive against Russian forces.www.reuters.com
Robotyne is about 40 km southeast of Zaporizhia.
I liked reading "tactically significant" on ISW last night with respect to advances around Robotyne. Very good news and sounds good to me.
"ISW previously assessed that Ukrainian attacks on Robotyne are tactically significant because a Ukrainian advance in the area may allow Ukrainian forces to begin operating past the densest Russian minefields."
Agreed. And once the Ukrainians are through the worst minefields I can envision a wave of Leopards, Challengers, Bradleys, Marders, CV90s, Gepards, Stormers, et al roaring across southern Ukraine towards Melitopol. Only the Russian air force could stop them then.It looks like they're driving towards Melitopol.
Agreed. And once the Ukrainians are through the worst minefields I can envision a wave of Leopards, Challengers, Bradleys, Marders, CV90s, Gepards, Stormers, et al roaring across southern Ukraine towards Melitopol. Only the Russian air force could stop them then.
I wonder how many Kamovs are left in Russian service?I sure hope they can exploit this movement. I also hope the Ukrainians can bring in medium and long-range SAMs to kill the Russian heloes this would surely draw out of the woodwork.