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SaparotRob said:
A moment of silence for that war criminal admiral. Under his command, the Russian Black Sea fleet lost a guided missile cruiser, several amphibious assault ships, several frigates, numerous patrol boats and a freakin' submarine to an opponent without a navy.
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Its worth remembering that in WW2 the Russian surface fleet (excluding some MTB's) sank nothing, not even a merchant ship. So you could say that their track record hasn't got any worse.
 
Denniss said:
Ukraine special forces claim the death of black see fleet admiral was confirmed along with 33 more officers. 105 soldiers were wounded. I'd say Jackpot!:punch:
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Attached: 1 image Ukrainian Special Forces confirmed the death of Viktor Nikolayevich Sokolov, commander of the Black Sea Fleet. In total 34 officers were killed while another 105 Russians were injured.
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Just looking at those Storm Shadow strikes, it would beggar belief that only one person was seriously wounded (and nobody killed)...which is what Moscow would have us believe. It was the middle of a workday in a major military headquarters. To suggest the building was so empty that those strikes only hurt one person is beyond laughable.
 
From ISW:

Elements of three Russian divisions are actively defending against Ukrainian assaults around the Ukrainian salient in the Orikhiv area in western Zaporizhia Oblast. Elements of the Russian 42nd Motorized Rifle Division (58th Combined Arms Army, Southern Military District) are deployed and are defending at the southernmost point of the Ukrainian penetration and are engaging Ukrainian forces in Novoprokopivka (13km south of Orikhiv).[1] Elements of the Russian 76th Air Assault Division deployed to the Ukrainian salient's western flank near Kopani (11km southwest of Orikhiv) towards Robotyne (10m south of Orikhiv) and are counterattacking there.[2] Elements of the 7th Air Assault Division are deployed on the Ukrainian salient's eastern flank near the Verbove-Novopokrovka line and are counterattacking there.[3] Sources affiliated with the Russian Airborne (VDV) Forces report that the 56th Air Assault Regiment (7th Air Assault Division) is deployed about 5km north of Verbove near Novofedorivka.[4]

A Russian source claimed that the 7th and 76th VDV Divisions were ordered to conduct an operational encirclement of the Ukrainian salient, but that they failed to do so and that the 7th VDV Division's effectiveness significantly declined after a successful Ukrainian strike against the division headquarters on September 19.[5] ISW offers no assessment about these reported orders to encircle Ukrainian forces beyond noting that it would be a sound practice for Russian forces to conduct counterattacks against Ukrainian forces' flanks within limits.

Ukrainian forces are attacking along three directions within the Orikhiv salient as of September 24. Ukrainian forces are conducting attacks from Robotyne against Novoprokopivka.[6] Ukrainian forces are attacking directly into Verbove's western side.[7] Ukrainian forces are also attacking north of Verbove.[8]

Russian sources report that Ukrainian forces broke into Verbove on September 22 and continued attacking the settlement with armored vehicles as of September 24. Geolocated combat footage posted on September 24 shows a Ukrainian BMP operating within Verbove's westernmost village limits.[9] A VDV-affiliated source reported that Ukrainian forces entered Verbove for the first time on September 22 and continued pushing east.[10] The VDV source later reported that Ukrainian forces occupy half of Verbove as of September 24.[11] The VDV source accused the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) of trying to conceal Ukraine's tactical progress in Verbove, rhetorically stating, "For how long can Shoigu's MoD hide the breakthrough in Verbove?"[12] Several Russian sources reported on September 24 that Ukrainian forces continue deploying vehicles against Verbove, including Bradley infantry fighting vehicles.[13] Some Russian sources are vehemently denying any Ukrainian breakthrough in Verbove as of September 24.[14] The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces captured new unspecified locations near Verbove on September 24.[15]

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The Russian military command may be ordering these counterattacks to buy time, but it is unclear how the Kremlin intends to use time bought at such a price. Russian forces appear to be unwilling to surrender tactical areas and are focusing instead on fighting for every meter instead of benefiting from the depth of their prepared defenses. Ukrainian military journalist Konstyantyn Mashovets observed that the Russian military command is achieving its objective of buying more time from these counterattacks but questioned what the Russian military command intends to do with this time.[29] Mashovets argued that the sacrifice of combat-ready forces and assets during defensive operations only makes sense in two situations: if it allows time to organize defensive systems at another prepared line or if it buys time for the organization of a more substantial counterattack or counteroffensive. Mashovets added that both scenarios assume that Russia has additional reserves and the ability to rapidly deploy these reserves to a new defensive line or an operational direction where it plans to carry out a new offensive.[30] Mashovets concluded that regardless of the Russian intent behind buying time, the Russian military command still needs additional reinforcements in the western Zaporizhia direction in addition to forces already concentrated on this frontline for Russian forces' current counterattacks to be operationally sound.
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Institute for the Study of War

This page collects ISW and CTP's updates on the conflict in Ukraine. In late February 2022, ISW began publishing daily synthetic products covering key events related to renewed Russian aggression against Ukraine.
www.understandingwar.org www.understandingwar.org

That last bit reminds me of someone ... what was his name ... gosh, it's escaping me -- whose "stand fast" orders cost him a war.
 
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Admiral Beez said:
We don't go back at all - we get no blame or credit for anything our ancestors did. But this isn't about going back in time, or encouraging thousand year old feuds. Ukraine, Germany, Canada and Israel all get along as members of the liberal democratic world order - there is no feud. But this is contemporary, not ancient history - this guy was there, he served the Nazis, and Canadians are right to be aghast that our government chose to celebrate him.
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I sent the following to the party leaders:

A Teachable Moment: To quote Stephen Leacock, before you all ride "…madly off in all directions…" I would note that you all got up and applauded the "Ukrainian" individual who fought the "Russians" during WWII. Let us think for a moment about the actual history of the events in the area currently known as the Ukraine during these horrible years. There were only two sides fighting in this area: the Soviet Union and the German military. There was no Russian army or Ukrainian army. Any "Ukrainian" individuals who fought against "Russia" would have served with the German army, in this case the Waffen SS. Anyone with even a "soupçon" of knowledge of the history of the war should be aware of this. But everyone, opposition included got up and applauded. You are all guilty of being woefully ignorant of history and insensitive to the millions who died during that war.

Parliament should reflect on this carefully before you get on your soap boxes and spout off!

Jim
 
Unsurprisingly, Russia leapt on this easy hit:

www.reuters.com

Kremlin says Canadian recognition of veteran from Nazi unit is 'outrageous'

The Kremlin said on Monday it was "outrageous" that a Ukrainian man who served in one of Adolf Hitler's Waffen SS units during World War Two had been presented to Canada's parliament last week as a hero.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
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