Snautzer01
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Since the are at the brink of war i think they will pospone retiring their f-16. Remember this is the country that bought avia 109 the s-199 and used them in combat, be it briefly.
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Since the are at the brink of war i think they will pospone retiring their f-16. Remember this is the country that bought avia 109 the s-199 and used them in combat, be it briefly.However, since Israel has been provoked by proxy, they can justify providing Ukraine with hardware, now.
An add-on to the above:
What is the one thing the IDAF has an abundance of and is currently being retired?
F-16s...
Israel has over 100 F-16s in storage and about that many in service or serviceable.Since the are at the brink of war i think they will pospone retiring their f-16. Remember this is the country that bought avia 109 the s-199 and used them in combat, be it briefly.
Israel has over 100 F-16s in storage and about that many in service or serviceable.
They also have F-35s and F-15s currently in service, so the one thing the IDAF is not lacking, is air power.
Exactly!I read that statement as a signal of an Israeli about-face on the Ukraine war (they'd been very lukewarm, wanting to keep tensions out of Syria). Now that they're in the sorta same boat, Israel can't reasonably expect other nations to want to help Israel even as Israel had denied help to Ukraine. So I think this might be a result of US pressure to mouth the right words.
That is, I believe, the ulterior motive in play here. Everybody and their housecat knows Israel can't really hurt Russia without going nuclear.
It is a risk, certainly but I doubt that Russia has the men, equipment or aircraft to try anything against Israel. If Ukraine with almost no airforce and mainly second string AA weapons can keep Russia at bay. Can you imagine what Israel would do to them?But if Israel supplies Ukraine with arms, Russians in Syria may heat things up, meaning those F-16s won't be as surplus as thought, perhaps.
not lacking
hey also have F-35s and F-15s currently in service, so the one thing the IDAF is not lacking, is air power.
Having modern planes while other fight in tunnels aint going to do you much good. It is the complete airforce that will keep other players at a distance. As a f-16 is better then most can field it against it and the US is very willing to supply.. So well.. they wont. If there will be a deal for ammo and more munitions, do not see hat happening in the near. To political.
MiG-21s? Who's still operating those? Maybe they were decommissioned aircraft used as bait?I just saw a YouTube video by Suchomimus. He has photos of the results of a Russian strike on a Ukrainian air base.
The strike destroyed 4 MiG-21s and 2 L-29s.
Did the Russians target the Ukrainian War Museum in Kyiv?I just saw a YouTube video by Suchomimus. He has photos of the results of a Russian strike on a Ukrainian air base.
The strike destroyed 4 MiG-21s and 2 L-29s.
Yes.Did the Russians target the Ukrainian War Museum in Kyiv?
Did the Russians target the Ukrainian War Museum in Kyiv?
"You kill our aircraft, we kill yours." Just that the russian ones were active and modern whereas the revenge kills were museum pieces. And they even missed some airframes visible there. Is that a Su-24 airframe above the building?
BTW the airframes are perfectly visible on Google Earth
I bet the Russians claimed that PzKfw IV as a kill, too!Yeah, it's obvious that they were in scrap. But hey, any victory is a ... um ... victory. Yeah, that's it. Victory.