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Jabberwocky said:
It's a nice thought, but there's actually been a shift back towards Russia losing modernised/new production tanks in recent months in Ukraine. Although I suspect it may have something to do with Russia's ongoing offensives around Kupyansk and Avdiikva - a number of Guards and mechanised units got badly chewed up there.

Looking at visually confirmed Russian tank losses of known types since the start of October (165 identified by Warspotting):

T-55: 0%
T-62: 1.2%
T-64: 9.1% (of which T-64A/early B: 2.8%)
T-72: 54.5% (of which T-72A/early B: 24.2%)
T-80: 28.5%
T-90: 6.6%

For September through November tank losses were about 60% 'modern' (Russian made or refurbed) and 40% reactivated Soviet era equipment. That compares to a ratio of about 35:65 over June, July and August when Russia was in more of a defensive posture.

End of the day, there are still PLENTY of modern T-80s and T-90s and refurbed/updated T-72s and T-80s in Russian service in Ukraine. Estimates are that Russia has 1600 to 2300 tanks in theater, of which roughly 65-75% will be operational at any one time. You could probably say slightly better than half the fleet are 'modern' tanks.
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It's also a problem for the Russians as numbers don't tell the whole story. A lot of the T-80 and T-90 tanks in use are as they
were when first produced. Upgraded T-72's are superior to both of the other non upgraded types. The T80BVM and T-90M
are both good upgrades but there are few T-80BVM and less than 100 T-90M.

The Ukrainian upgrade of the T-80 (some designate it as T-84) is a capable vehicle in itself.

These upgrades have made the Russian armour a hotch potch of types. The T-90 was an upgrade of the T-72 to allow it to run
beside the T-80 (more expensive) which was allocated to the best units as it was supposed to be the better tank. Considering
the T-80's reliability problems this is debated by many.

All in all, the numbers are there but the abilities per unit are vastly different according to the type and level of upgrades each has.
 
defence-blog.com

Russian tanks receive new counter-drone electronic warfare system

Confirmation has surfaced that Russian tanks have started receiving modern counter-drone systems. Within Russian social media, a photo has been published showcasing the "Volnorez" electronic warfare system designed to counter unmanned aerial vehicles. It's poised for installation on a tank...
defence-blog.com defence-blog.com

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GTX said:
www.abc.net.au

This Ukrainian commander says leaks, fearsome choppers and poor planning doomed the counteroffensive

An officer who led his troops into one of the key initial battles of Ukraine's counteroffensive labels the operation a failure.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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Ukraine needs to spend the winter deciding what their next move is. If they don't have solid gains before the Nov 2024 US elections I'd say they're in trouble diplomatically.
 
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