Especially given how dire the results are likely to be...beyond Ukraine.
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GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
It's not a matter of "failing Ukraine", it's a matter of complicated logistics.
Trying to coordinate munition and equipment shipments to various ports from a broad range of sources, offloading, organizing and then transporting them to Ukraine (by road, rail and air).
Once across the border, they have to be assigned, dispersed and transported to rear areas.
From there, they have to be moved to the front, often times within range of Russian attack.
There is no magic wand to wave, that will instantly move munitions from NATO stockpiles to Ukraine's front lines.
Trying to coordinate munition and equipment shipments to various ports from a broad range of sources, offloading, organizing and then transporting them to Ukraine (by road, rail and air).
Once across the border, they have to be assigned, dispersed and transported to rear areas.
From there, they have to be moved to the front, often times within range of Russian attack.
There is no magic wand to wave, that will instantly move munitions from NATO stockpiles to Ukraine's front lines.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Nor to restore time lost to dithering.
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Sweden and Danemark to supply more CV90 combat vehicles to Ukraine
On 18 December, Swedish Minister for Defence Pål Jonson travelled to Copenhagen for talks with Danish Minister of Defence Troels Lund Poulsen. Matters discwww.armyrecognition.com
That headline must have been written by AI
It is Denmark - not Danemark
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
"Dithering" is an interesting way of putting it.
In the opening days of the war, the NATO countries offered Zelensky rides to safety, not military aid.
The initial impression was that Ukraine would be steamrolled in a matter of weeks, if not days. Almost two years later, Ukraine has thwarted every attempt by Russia, which was assumed to be an impossible feat at the start.
The problem with all the nations "dithering" with their aid, ranges from fear of making Russia angry, to trying to figure out how much can be given without depleting stocks below self defense capability.
None of the nations are on a wartime footing, so stock drawdown needs parity in replenishment.
Trying to boost or restart munition production doesn't come at the snap of the fingers. Proposals, bids, manpower hiring, bringing old tooling out of storage (for suspended production), and so on and so on contributes greatly to the "dithering".
In the case of surplus equipment, there is a long list of steps that need to be taken before the vehicles (tanks, AFVs, launchers, artillery, etc.) even get loaded aboard a ship.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Yeah, I kinda' forgot the first weeks. I thought Ukraine was a goner myself. I didn't even know "where inside Russia the Ukraine was".
Never mind. Nothing to see here. Carry on.
There would have been no point arming Ukraine if they were just going to roll over and give up.
RogerdeLluria
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Too bad the Turks scrapped Yavûz Sultân Selîm. Ukraine could have taken it over.
What's smokier, a Turkish battlecruiser or a Russian aircraft carrier?
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Wrong angle. I doubt the Turkish batlecruiser can be seen from space.
Giant column of smoke from the engines of the Russian Navy's aircraft carrier 'Admiral Kuznetsov'
Smoke from Russian aircraft carrier 'Admiral Kuznetsov' seen from space as it entered the Gulf of Bothia in 2019
Admiral Beez
Major
And given that in 2014 Ukraine abandoned Crimea without any resistance and in many cases in collaboration with Russia, the West could not be certain that Ukraine in 2022 would have behaved differently.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
That looks like it's already been hit.
One source reports that's a volcano. I think we are going to have to fact check this one.
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