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It's interesting also to read this piece, linked in the Article:

By the way, we can be sure it was not a PAC-3 patriot that hit the il-22, PAC-3 are hit to kill and rely on kinetic energy, it must have been a proximity fussed PAC-2 jugging by the many holes in the aircraft tail.
 
If helicopters aren't obsolete, as decried by some YouTube experts, Ukraine needs replacement choppers, yesterday. Whatever airframe we got that's available, send it. I hope that the necessary supply chains have already been anticipated.

Helicopters are like anything. They are only obsolete when used in the wrong context or role.

The Apache has the ability to remain hidden and fire and forget.
 
New Zealand's stuck with the NH-90, so would likely be able to provide training and support - one of the reasons we went that route was for commonality with Aus.

A fair amount of that blame for the failure of the program should also be directed to the ADF. They were hell-bent on keeping with what they had that I wouldn't be surprised if they were less than vigilant with how they ran they MRH-90 program.
 

The RNZAF's experiences with the NH-90 have been entirely different to those of Australia, No.3 Sqn having been able to maintain a good state of airworthiness. In fact, the highest houred NH-90s serve with the RNZAF. The first in-service NH-90 to achieve 2,000 flying hours was NZ3302.

Yes, in auditing reports released on the subject, the ADF's management of the technical aspects of the project have been criticised, but given that the ADF is a government department, the Australian government is definitely to blame collectively.
 
I worked for a company that was consulting to the ADF and was trying desperately to p[rove that they could adequately sustain the AH-1 and UH-1's. They spent huge sums trying to do this.
 
I worked for a company that was consulting to the ADF and was trying desperately to p[rove that they could adequately sustain the AH-1 and UH-1's. They spent huge sums trying to do this.

AH-1s? Was this during procurement of the Tigers? How long ago was this, Aaron? The Aussies retired their UH-1s years ago now, you must be getting old...
 

and many who have had a lot to do with them say RAAF stands for Real Amateur Air Force
 
Ok, so here is the answer to my previous trivia question. The Apache in my pics is from the South Carolina Army National Guard. For some reason they did not paint all their Apaches in the non-Standard Army OD Green color.

It's the USMC grey color. They even put in the great shark mouth on them.

I personally really like it. Grey believe it or not is better than OD Green. Why? Grey blends into the horizon/sky better. Its harder for someone on the ground to pick it out.

Here is a pic of mine of a standard US Army OD green Apache to compare.



 

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