Admiral Beez
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I'm not on staff here, go ahead and respond. I only surmised based on evidence thus far that you'd reply with a rhetorical question rejecting the post. But I'm not psychic and anything else will surprise me for sure.
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Is this the 'end of the beginning' for Russia in Ukraine?
There is a growing consensus from both official sources and other experts that Russian forces have, or are on the cusp of, culminating in Ukraine. Mick Ryan explains what that could mean.
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No-fly zone above Ukraine can no longer be taboo. There is a solution. - European Values Center for Security Policy
The mistakes of the Russian army are piling up. The attack on the nuclear power plant was one of them. The Kremlin is clearly incapable of turning the tide of the war to achieve its objectives, it should have taken a completely different path, one of de-escalation. Provide humanitarian corridors...
europeanvalues.cz
I think even a limited no-fly zone is going to lead to NATO and Russian aircraft engaging. Putin will not recognize its legality because it would be interpreted as providing a safe harbor for Ukrainian forces. Also, as refugees leave through the corridor, Putin would argue that military supplies are flowing in the other direction under the cover of the no-fly zone. Which he would probably be correct about, because that is what I would use it for as well.No-fly zone above Ukraine can no longer be taboo. There is a solution. - European Values Center for Security Policy
The mistakes of the Russian army are piling up. The attack on the nuclear power plant was one of them. The Kremlin is clearly incapable of turning the tide of the war to achieve its objectives, it should have taken a completely different path, one of de-escalation. Provide humanitarian corridors...
Admiral Beez
Major
Perhaps things won't be easy for the Russians in Belarus either. If Putin can't take Ukraine the citizens of Belarus have a road map to true independence.
Advisor to Sviatlana Tsihanouskaya: Belarusian partisans stop Russian trains and damage equipment
Olha Hluschenko – Monday, 21 March 2022, 04:11
www.pravda.com.ua
We'll see if this is accurate by tomorrow.
Putin will not recognize legality of a no-fly zone above other country??
Admiral Beez
Major
If a NATO plane shoots down a Russian plane anywhere, even in the middle of the Atlantic it's an declaration of war by NATO.
Snautzer01
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You think? They cant take a big city but will take on Nato? 60 clicks of convoy with not enough gas to disperse? In what universe would that give the russians convidence to start a third front?
Self proclaimed admiral or not, think you have to reset your thinking there a bit.
Yeah.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The artical also mentioned non-NATO countries conducting no-fly enforcement.
Admiral Beez
Major
True, but I think the best no fly enforcement is effective SAMs, not fighter aircraft.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
A neutral aircraft enforcing a no-fly zone does not have to touch Ukrainian soil or Russian occupied soil.
It can enter, traverse and enforce the no-fly area without involving one side or the other.
It can enter, traverse and enforce the no-fly area without involving one side or the other.
Glider
Captain
I'm sorry but I feel that this is going down a blind alley.
a) If any nation NATO or not want to enforce a no fly zone then that will involve firing of Russian forces, and will be taken as the opening of hostilities
b) Only NATO has the forces to try such a thing
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The Ukrainian Air Force is still active, so no-fly would mean no-fly (fixed wing, rotary, UAV, etc.) regardless of which side.
Also plenty of non-NATO nations that have advanced aircract capable of meeting the challenge:
Sweden, Israel, Japan, etc.
Also plenty of non-NATO nations that have advanced aircract capable of meeting the challenge:
Sweden, Israel, Japan, etc.
Yep, and the first thing that will happen is that the operating base will be targeted.
NATO, the EU, the US, etc are all desperately trying not to give putin what he wants.
