"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (4 Viewers)
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swampyankee
Chief Master Sergeant
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- Jun 25, 2013
Treaty breaking was something of a US habit, especially in the 19th Century.
In the 20th, Wilson (in addition to his other flaws, he was a segregationist PoS who segregated federal facilities) wasn't able to get the US into the League of Nations, which was his idea. His idea of national self-determination also excluded peoples of color leading to, among other things, the Vietnam War. Part of the reason the LoN failure rankled is likely that the UK, especially, was a parliamentary democracy, where the head of government (prime minister) is part of the legislature, so he or she knows a major treaty will be approved. In the case of the UK, the head of state (monarch) cannot really do anything except accept the treaty, lest they participate a constitutional crisis. This isn't likely to go as badly as it did for Charles I, but it may be quite messy nonetheless.
In the 20th, Wilson (in addition to his other flaws, he was a segregationist PoS who segregated federal facilities) wasn't able to get the US into the League of Nations, which was his idea. His idea of national self-determination also excluded peoples of color leading to, among other things, the Vietnam War. Part of the reason the LoN failure rankled is likely that the UK, especially, was a parliamentary democracy, where the head of government (prime minister) is part of the legislature, so he or she knows a major treaty will be approved. In the case of the UK, the head of state (monarch) cannot really do anything except accept the treaty, lest they participate a constitutional crisis. This isn't likely to go as badly as it did for Charles I, but it may be quite messy nonetheless.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
I'm glad he's finally done this, but it really speaks to his electoral fears that this only came about after the election defeat.
He should have grown a pair in 2023 and challenged opponents to argue otherwise. I think we all here have made mention of it at one point or another.
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
Even CNN agrees.
Biden's green light for Ukraine to use ATACMS in Russia just raised the stakes in a war Trump will inherit https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/17/europe/analysis-biden-atacms-ukraine-intl-latam/index.html
Trump left Biden a mess in Afghanistan now Biden leaves him a mess in Ukraine. 1:1
Situation may have been vastly different if the long range strike permission came at least 1.5 years earlier. Ukraine would probably have seriously damaged russian fuel prodduction and/or large ammo depots.
Situation may have been vastly different if the long range strike permission came at least 1.5 years earlier. Ukraine would probably have seriously damaged russian fuel prodduction and/or large ammo depots.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
What it boils down to, is Russia is about to reap what they have sown.
Regardless of what nation or administration has had in the way of reservations due to "escalation", it is aboit a sovereign nation under seige.
Ukraine has had every opportunity to give Russia an eye for an eye and they have instead, taken the high road. Even when they too the Kursk region, they requested humanitarian aid for the Russian citizens in the towns they captured.
If Ukraine wants to use long range weapons on Russia, we can pretty much be sure they will not be wasted on maternity hospitals, schools, apartment buildings and shopping malls.
Regardless of what nation or administration has had in the way of reservations due to "escalation", it is aboit a sovereign nation under seige.
Ukraine has had every opportunity to give Russia an eye for an eye and they have instead, taken the high road. Even when they too the Kursk region, they requested humanitarian aid for the Russian citizens in the towns they captured.
If Ukraine wants to use long range weapons on Russia, we can pretty much be sure they will not be wasted on maternity hospitals, schools, apartment buildings and shopping malls.
Escuadrilla Azul
Tech Sergeant
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RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
- 1,325
- Jul 5, 2015
Actually, permission for striking inside Russia should have never been necessary.
Weapons should have been sent with no constraints to use from the very moment they where shipped to Ukraine.
Western nations have artificially created 2 red lines, sending the weapons and giving permission, we could have got out just with the first one.
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Not as good as it initially sounded
newsukraine.rbc.ua
US decision to lift restrictions on long-range strikes reportedly applies only to Russia’s Kursk
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Thumpalumpacus
Major
Not as good as it initially sounded
US decision to lift restrictions on long-range strikes reportedly applies only to Russia’s Kursk
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Admiral Beez
Major
Imagine if Biden of Nov 2022 gave Biden of 2024's green lights and support to Ukraine.
fubar57
General
Russia warns U.S. to avoid escalating Ukraine war by giving OK to long-range missiles | CBC News
The Kremlin said on Monday that any U.S. decision to allow Ukraine to fire American missiles deep into Russia would mean it was directly involved in the conflict, and would lead to consequences.
Admiral Beez
Major
It will be interesting when this war is over (if only for some years) and the Russian people begin to notice that two hundred thousand men KIA are missing and another three hundred thousand or more are permanently maimed. What will the mothers and wives of Russia think? They did not take kindly to Putin after the disaster of the Kursk submarine loss and the government incompetence in their rescue came to light.
And then there's the hole ripped in the Russian military inventory - where it will take Russia decades to replace the number of tanks, AFVs and trucks lost. When we see Russian production numbers for tanks of 150-300 a month those are mostly refurbished, older tanks. I expect T-90M and especially T-14 Armata production of new-builds is less than a dozen per month. Perhaps we'll see Russia attempt to reform its military away from mass attacks, since they no longer have the scale to pull it off.
And then there's the hole ripped in the Russian military inventory - where it will take Russia decades to replace the number of tanks, AFVs and trucks lost. When we see Russian production numbers for tanks of 150-300 a month those are mostly refurbished, older tanks. I expect T-90M and especially T-14 Armata production of new-builds is less than a dozen per month. Perhaps we'll see Russia attempt to reform its military away from mass attacks, since they no longer have the scale to pull it off.
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And here it comes:
Kremlin accuses US of risking World War III
A Russian politician says the Biden administration is "trying to escalate the situation to the maximum while they still have power and are still in office".
www.abc.net.au
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Gabba gabba hey!
Don't dance near windows, balconies etc
Interesting interview in this one:
www.abc.net.au
What Biden's long-range missile decision means for the war in Ukraine
Experts say the long-range missile systems could be used to target critical supply chains and hamper the Russian invasion of Ukraine, if not end it entirely.
www.abc.net.au
