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You may still have lost had the RN not uncharacteristically lost the Battle of the Chesapeake. Of course France's helping a grass roots rebellion in 1776 was a little dumb, as it gave their own people the same idea in 1789, with the French King being executed in in 1793.Just don't mention that we would have lost with out massive weapons and ammunition transfers from France as well as foreign trainers (Von Steuben, et al). There is a reason that the first Springfield Musket of 1795 is a direct ripoff of the Charleville Model 1763/66. I imagine that, likewise, in a couple of years there will be very good clones of the Javelin out of Ukrainian arms companies.
Nitpicking, I know, but actually nobody would touch the American rebels in 1776. It was the American defeat of Burgoyne's northern invasion in late 1777 that opened the floodgates of foreign aid. Gen. Horatio Gates was credited with that victory, but it was his subordinate, Benedict Arnold, who was the primary architect of the success at Saratoga and the campaign leading up to it.Of course France's helping a grass roots rebellion in 1776 was a little dumb, as it gave their own people the same idea in 1789.
The Dutch were also a key player along with France and Spain.
It's a good read.
Never mind the academic claptrap. The pertinent perspective on Putin, Stalin, Hitler, et al, is encapsulated in Nineteen Eighty Four.His collected Essays are here: Collected Essays, by George Orwell - Free e-book
I personally found more of value for that in "Homage to Catalonia" with the descriptions of dealing with real Stalinists and fighting the Fascists while not politically acceptable (Trotskyite) to either being in the POUM militia. His wound came, really, just in the nick of time.Never mind the academic claptrap. The pertinent perspective on Putin, Stalin, Hitler, et al, is encapsulated in Nineteen Eighty Four.
Who taught you history?? Have you forgotten the entire Napoleanic wars? 1789 would have happened without the USA's example though probably a little later, and definitely more brutally, if that's conceivable. Napoleon or someone like him would be the result, as the clash of empires still required resolution. Britain and France spent most of the rest of the 19th century snarling at each other. Hardly "at peace with each other".France has been at Peace with Britain since 1763.
Thanks for the tip. Added to my list.I personally found more of value for that in "Homage to Catalonia" with the descriptions of dealing with real Stalinists and fighting the Fascists while not politically acceptable (Trotskyite) to either
Think that was a typo for "had". The idea being that they were then currently at peace so why kick the dog? Fortunately, Franklin convinced them to do soWho taught you history?? Have you forgotten the entire Napoleanic wars? 1789 would have happened without the USA's example though probably a little later, and definitely more brutally, if that's conceivable. Napoleon or someone like him would be the result, as the clash of empires still required resolution. Britain and France spent most of the rest of the 19th century snarling at each other. Hardly "at peace with each other".
I do hate the gotcha like replies we sometimes see. Whenever I'm compelled to reply with such sarcastic dismissals I say to myself, "Come on Admiral, don't be a dick. If you have nothing to contribute, keep quiet."Who taught you history?? Have you forgotten the entire Napoleanic wars?
Think that was a typo for "had". The idea being that they were then currently at peace so why kick the dog?
By land, and in Europe, there were periods of "peace" and war, but at sea and globally, conflict never ceased, as the contest for empire and sniping at rival's seaborne trade with privateers and letters of marque was never-ending, despite treaties and conventions.Did you forget the Anglo-French war of 1778–1783 that predated the Napoleonic War?
Roger that!But we're off topic, I'll say no more on this. Back to Ukraine.
Besides, isn't the .M1 Abrams kind of long in the tooth these days? And don't we have a stockpile of them out of service as they're considered unsurvivable on a modern battlefield?Is this just more of the same or is Ukraine asking for US made and operated AFV? As I understand it the issue is a lack of familiarity and training.
The Marines are getting rid of the M1 also, so there must be some more hundreds of surplus Abrams tanks.Besides, isn't the .M1 Abrams kind of long in the tooth these days? And don't we have a stockpile of them out of service as they're considered unsurvivable on a modern battlefield?
Being re-manufactured into M1A2 SEP V3s I believe.The Marines are getting rid of the M1 also, so there must be some more hundreds of surplus Abrams tanks.