"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (2 Viewers)
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ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
Hey DerAdlerIstGelandet,
re "That or his military commanders are completely inept."
I do not know if that would explain it. The Ukraine has ~200,000 active military personnel (~170,000 ground forces), plus ~60,000 national guard, plus ~50,000 quasi-military border police. And the total population is around 44,000,000 people. You can not be anyway sure of winning a military action at ~1:1 odds on the ground, and there is no way the RF could sustain an occupation of Ukraine that would not be a disaster in terms of expense (even without the new economic sanctions).
Maybe if he appointed people to the positions that had no military strategy training? The majority of the wargamers I know understand the historical odds factor for attack vs defense, and basic logistics.
If I let my paranoia loose, it is as if this is a side show, or maybe expected to become a side show.
re "That or his military commanders are completely inept."
I do not know if that would explain it. The Ukraine has ~200,000 active military personnel (~170,000 ground forces), plus ~60,000 national guard, plus ~50,000 quasi-military border police. And the total population is around 44,000,000 people. You can not be anyway sure of winning a military action at ~1:1 odds on the ground, and there is no way the RF could sustain an occupation of Ukraine that would not be a disaster in terms of expense (even without the new economic sanctions).
Maybe if he appointed people to the positions that had no military strategy training? The majority of the wargamers I know understand the historical odds factor for attack vs defense, and basic logistics.
If I let my paranoia loose, it is as if this is a side show, or maybe expected to become a side show.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
I think the buildup campaign over the last six months was hoped to undermine Ukrainian morale, and that the hope was for a walkover as a result.
Admiral Beez
Captain
A possible hiccup for Britons who want to join the cause.
www.theguardian.com
"The comments of the foreign secretary may be entirely honourable and understandable, but unless the UK government gives formal licence to people to go to Ukraine, they would be in breach of the Foreign Enlistment Act and committing a criminal offence," said Grieve, who left the Conservative party over Brexit.
Liz Truss criticised for backing Britons who wish to fight in Ukraine
Present and former Conservatives warn that anyone volunteering for combat in embattled country will be breaking the law
"The comments of the foreign secretary may be entirely honourable and understandable, but unless the UK government gives formal licence to people to go to Ukraine, they would be in breach of the Foreign Enlistment Act and committing a criminal offence," said Grieve, who left the Conservative party over Brexit.
ww2restorer
Airman 1st Class
- 239
- May 28, 2011
I don't see it posted, however a couple of days ago, the Russian destroyed the Antonov 225
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
The US has a similar law:
Title 18 U.S. Code § 959 - Enlistment in foreign service
(a) Whoever, within the United States, enlists or enters himself, or hires or retains another to enlist or enter himself, or to go beyond the jurisdiction of the United States with intent to be enlisted or entered in the service of any foreign prince, state, colony, district, or people as a soldier or as a marine or seaman on board any vessel of war, letter of marque, or privateer, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b) . . .
Title 18 U.S. Code § 959 - Enlistment in foreign service
(a) Whoever, within the United States, enlists or enters himself, or hires or retains another to enlist or enter himself, or to go beyond the jurisdiction of the United States with intent to be enlisted or entered in the service of any foreign prince, state, colony, district, or people as a soldier or as a marine or seaman on board any vessel of war, letter of marque, or privateer, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b) . . .
Admiral Beez
Captain
This convoy will be target #1 tonight. The West likely has satellites positioned right on top to guide Ukrainian missile and ground strikes.
news.yahoo.com
Russian convoy of ground forces, tanks moving toward Kyiv, Maxar says
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Satellite imagery taken on Sunday showed a large deployment of Russian ground forces including tanks moving in the direction of the Ukrainian capital Kyiv from approximately 40 miles (64 km) away, a private U.S. company said. The images released by Maxar Technologies Inc...
Thumpalumpacus
Major
... and no doubt this is being shared as close to real-time as possible with the Ukrainians.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
And depending who that foreign prince, state, colony, district is, this has been ignored.
Admiral Beez
Captain
Indeed. It's one thing to go to Syria to join ISIS, another to serve alongside the West's friends in Ukraine against Putin.
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
Then there was the Abraham Lincoln Battalion in Spain 1937-38
special ed
1st Sergeant
- 5,065
- May 13, 2018
Those who went to Canada to fly for the RAF were forgiven.
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
Did any go to Germany?
I know that a number of Japanese-Americans either joined or were impressed into the Japanese armed forces.
I know that a number of Japanese-Americans either joined or were impressed into the Japanese armed forces.
Admiral Beez
Captain
Can Ukraine Really Use Donated Fighter Jets? That Depends
After EU says it will send some aircraft to Ukraine, a retired U.S. fighter chief explains how that might work.
www.defenseone.com
Thumpalumpacus
Major
I've read of Americans who served under German colors. I'll have to look again for specifics so apply salt as needed.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Many of them came back to the US and were labeled communists. Elena Roosevelt helped preventing them from being persecuted
buffnut453
Captain
Not according to William Ash who flew Spitfires for the RAF. His autobiography notes that he was stripped of his American citizenship and ended up settling in the UK and became a British citizen.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Neither here nor there but what if the U.S. offered to replace Ukraine bound MiG-29s/SU-25s with F-16s or F/A-18s? What kind of message would it send?Can Ukraine Really Use Donated Fighter Jets? That Depends
After EU says it will send some aircraft to Ukraine, a retired U.S. fighter chief explains how that might work.
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
Many Americans that fought for the UK were repatriated during the war, being transferred back into US units. Ajax Baumler, who had flown for the Republicans in Spain, had his passport revoked to prevent him from joining the AVG.
Admiral Beez
Captain
Some degree of US plausible deniability would be necessary. The USAF has twenty or so MiG-29s. Those would be the ones to send.
The Secret Is Out: America Purchased 21 Russian MiG-29 Fighters (Here Is What Happenned)
One test pilot concluded that the Fulcrum’s “abilities equals and sometimes even exceeds those of the F-15 and F-16 jets. The aircraft is highly maneuverable, and its engines provide higher weight to thrust ratio. Our pilots must be careful with this aircraft in air combat. Flown by a well...
nationalinterest.org
