"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (4 Viewers)

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President Zelenskyy saying "Maybe I was wrong about this whole thing, comrade." ?
 
  • Dialogue and cooperation started when newly independent Ukraine joined the North Atlantic Cooperation Council (1991) and the Partnership for Peace programme (1994).
  • Relations were strengthened with the signing of the 1997 Charter on a Distinctive Partnership, which established the NATO-Ukraine Commission (NUC) to take cooperation forward.
  • Since 2009, the NUC has overseen Ukraine's Euro-Atlantic integration process, including reforms under the Annual National Programme (ANP).
  • Cooperation has deepened over time and is mutually beneficial, with Ukraine actively contributing to NATO-led operations and missions.
  • Priority is given to support for comprehensive reform in the security and defence sector, which is vital for Ukraine's democratic development and for strengthening its ability to defend itself.
So much for your "facts" - maybe you should really read up the "facts"
And again:
there were two options for NATO and the Ukraine latest since 2019, a clever diplomatic one, or a rather stupid/arrogant one - unfortunately NATO and Ukraine opted for the latter one.
And now since February 2022 we have to deal with the result of their preferred option.
 
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True. Maybe Britain and Allies should have kept the place in 1919.



Too bad Britain was too weak after the First World War. Had Britain controlled Constantinople along with Suez and Gibraltar the Mediterranean would have looked very different a hundred years on.
 
Priority is given to support for comprehensive reform in the security and defence sector, which is vital for Ukraine's democratic development and for strengthening its ability to defend itself.
And this, right here, is exactly what Putin did not want.

So when the Ukrainians ousted Putin's puppet and his corrupt posse in 2014, Russia invaded and took the Crimea and Donbas.

One simply cannot have a nation that wants to be self sufficient, self determining and free to think for itself.
 

Again I would suspect China has leaned on Putin like they did over his threat to use Nukes. China wants to rule a complete world - not a nuclear wasted world so I suspect that they also want Russia as a viable client - not a damaged client that they have to assist in recovering.
 
There is surplus gas in Aus and Canada though the Chinese and Japanese take a large part of it. That unfortunately means that Italy would have to outbid them on the open market.
The infrastructure to export Cdn LNG really isn't in place right now. There was big plans several years ago but with the depressed market at the time it stalled.
 
Thanks for that. Aus is exporting to a lot of Asia at present so adding the EU will probably be more a shortage of ships than a shortage of facilities at this end. And facilities can be ramped up quicker than LNG tankers
 

I'm sorry but "the result of their preferred option" should NOT have required the invasion of Ukraine. NOTHING in any prior engagements between Ukraine and the west justifies Russia's actions.

I'd dearly love to know what this "clever diplomatic" solution looked like because it sounds an awful lot like Ukraine bowing to Russia's wishes...and that's EXACTLY what Ukraine is fighting for today. Unless you don't believe that sovereign nations should be able to make their own decisions and chart their own destinies?
 
The infrastructure to export Cdn LNG really isn't in place right now. There was big plans several years ago but with the depressed market at the time it stalled.
The LNG Canada facility in Kitimat BC has been moving ahead full steam and I understand it will be on stream some time next year or early 2024


There have been several projects on the east coast that have been considered since at least the early 2000's. Some have come and gone but some have seen interest resurrected recently for obvious reasons. Fickle politics, aboriginal land claims, and regulatory hurdles have all conspired against such projects over the years leaving the LNG Canada project the only one moving ahead at this time.
 

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