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The trick is to identify friend or foe before you shoot, so that the missile's guidance system, heat or radar seaking doesn't matter. To that end Starstreak, Mistral, Stinger and SAAB's RBS 70 all come standard with aiming point IFF. But it only works if both the launcher and the potential friendly target are set up to communicate with each other. That's what I'm suggesting for these new helicopters.Most Manpads are heat seeking so IFF will not do much for you.
Confirmed. Not for the first time, Belarus has been used as a launching pad since day 1 of the invasion.I was clicking through various news articles. I saw one from the NY Post, a news outlet I usually disregard. It's article stated that rockets were fired from Belorussia into Ukraine. Any confirmation on this?
Sean Penn? Why does his opinion matter? Shall we ask Madonna next?Moonfish, Juice and Sean.
Regardless of that, this means Belarus is an active belligerent. Ukraine is perfectly justified in striking themIf Russia continues to use Belarus, then in theory there is nothing to stop Ukraine using say Poland.
I cannot help but doubt celebrity sincerity.
The trick is to identify friend or foe before you shoot, so that the missile's guidance system, heat or radar seaking doesn't matter. To that end Starstreak, Mistral, Stinger and SAAB's RBS 70 all come standard with aiming point IFF. But it only works if both the launcher and the potential friendly target are set up to communicate with each other. That's what I'm suggesting for these new helicopters.
But the topic was equipping Ukraine's new helicopters with IFF so that the UAF won't shoot them down. In that context why do you suggest that IFF won't be useful since the MANPADS used by the UAF don't have IFF, when at least those MANPADS supplied by NATO are thus equipped?See I'm thinking your standard Russian SA-7, SA-14, SA-16, or SA-18. IFF is meaningless for them. Its aim and shoot, and the seeker tracks s heat signature.
As pointed out in the discussion upthread, MANPADs generally don't have IFF receivers.
But the topic was equipping Ukraine's new helicopters with IFF so that the UAF won't shoot them down. In that context why do you suggest that IFF won't be useful since the MANPADS used by the UAF don't have IFF, when at least those MANPADS supplied by NATO are thus equipped?
But the topic was equipping Ukraine's new helicopters with IFF so that the UAF won't shoot them down. In that context why do you suggest that IFF won't be useful since the MANPADS used by the UAF don't have IFF, when at least those MANPADS supplied by NATO are thus equipped?
I'm referring to this chat, where I said that Ukraine's new US supplied helicopters need IFF. I appreciate your clarifying your post, as I couldn't follow. As for suggestions of insulting your intelligence - goodness, don't look to internet discussion forums for affirmation of your intellect either way.You may disagree, A Admiral Beez , but the discussion starting here. Maybe refresh your memory of that convo? I mean, you were posting right in the middle of it.
Interesting - from what I've read it's standard kit. I wonder if that's because NATO kept the latest versions for themselves?Not all are Ukrainian MANPADs are so-equipped.
Kyiv needs Iron Dome, Patriots or some equivalent anti missile system. I was hoping, overly optimistically it seems, that the capital would already have some degree of counter missile capability by now.
I'm referring to this chat, where I said that Ukraine's new US supplied helicopters need IFF.
I appreciate your clarifying your post, as I couldn't follow. As for suggestions of insulting your intelligence - goodness, don't look to internet discussion forums for affirmation of your intellect either way.
Interesting - from what I've read it's standard kit. I wonder if that's because NATO kept the latest versions for themselves?