Glider
Captain
It fits though. What exactly has France given to Ukraine? A handful of SPG's and a number of phone calls to Putin, anything else anybody?If that is anywhere near accurate, France is pathetic
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Admiral Beez
Major
When has anyone relied on France to shoulder their share without fail?
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
1781?
I just googled this and it offered a cautionary tale. France spent so much supporting the American Colonies that it bankrupted them, leading to the French Revolution.
I just googled this and it offered a cautionary tale. France spent so much supporting the American Colonies that it bankrupted them, leading to the French Revolution.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
General Washington at Yorktown following the Battle of the Virginia Capes comes to mind.
The French supplied arms to the UA even before the Russian attack as did the UK and the USA. And after the attack they kept supplying arms to the UA but have kept a low profile on that. Also Finns have not advertised what we had sent, we have 1300 km of good reasons for that.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
No, but they damned sure will feel the need for 'em tomorrow ... or next year ... or ten or twenty years from now. I reckon this invasion has toxified the relationship between the two nations for generations.
They'll get a few years to work up on the Leopard while they field the captured bounty and donated/purchased spares and ammo.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Well yeah, but not right now. How many freaking tanks does the ZSU have now? I'm not even counting that farmer in Brovary.
I'd prefer they get the M-1. 'Cause, like, they're cool.
I'd prefer they get the M-1. 'Cause, like, they're cool.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
More MLRS/HIMARs, more ammo, and add A-10s to the F-16 training we're giving them. OG Abrams now in storage would be cool too. Did I mention Warthogs?
Talking with my son about it last night, I mentioned that one of the ironies that will probably arise from this war is the fact that many places in Ukraine will have buildings using, in part, resmelted steel from all the hardware the Russians have lost.
And I think that every Ukrainian tractor-owner should get his own tank, just 'cause. That's not counting the ones they recover for tax exemptions.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Send 'em a dozen Warthogs, a U-haul full of parts and let's see what they do with it. Just sayin'.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Don't forget the Mavericks.
buffnut453
Captain
Some interesting stats in the Forbes article. Not sure of their veracity:
www.forbes.com
The Russian Army Is Losing A Battalion Every Day As Ukrainian Counterattacks Accelerate
The Russian army is losing at least a battalion’s worth of vehicles and men a day as twin Ukrainian counteroffensives roll back Russian territorial gains in eastern and southern Ukraine. That’s hundreds of casualties and scores of vehicle write-offs every day.
www.forbes.com
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Oh man, I did. Good point.
Maybe they should go ahead and place an order for the new German Panther when they go into production.
Ukraine has largest tank factory in the world and very experienced engineers - all they need is time and money....
Ukraine now also has the world's largest second hand tank yard. Good prices and no tax due to farmer origin so agricultural products.
at6
1st Sergeant
World News tonight had footage of Orc tanks and supplies being abandoned by their crews in a panic to leave. At this rate Ukraine won't have enough people to use it all.
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
buffnut453
Captain
Russian forces "outnumbered 8 to 1" by the Ukrainian offensive. Yeah...right! Just more excuses for an abysmal performance by the Russian military.
www.bbc.com
The updated map is interesting, showing all Russian forces evicted from Ukraine in the area north of Kharkiv. Although II don't like these maps that the BBC shows (the keys are misleading and they contain an odd mix of current and old information), they are reportedly sourced from the UK MOD. Regardless, that big splotch of purple in the north is really great news.
Just hoping and praying that Ukraine can hold onto these gains and continue to capitalize on them. They have a lot of territory still to re-take, and it will take a sizeable force to prevent Russian re-attacks.
Ukraine war: Russians 'outnumbered 8-1' in counter-attack
Ukraine's army makes significant territorial gains, while Russia hits back with missiles.
www.bbc.com
The updated map is interesting, showing all Russian forces evicted from Ukraine in the area north of Kharkiv. Although II don't like these maps that the BBC shows (the keys are misleading and they contain an odd mix of current and old information), they are reportedly sourced from the UK MOD. Regardless, that big splotch of purple in the north is really great news.
Just hoping and praying that Ukraine can hold onto these gains and continue to capitalize on them. They have a lot of territory still to re-take, and it will take a sizeable force to prevent Russian re-attacks.
Glider
Captain
I wonder if it's something he ate?
