"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (4 Viewers)

[Greg Boeser]

War is always political. They are started by politicians with political goals. The decision to resist or capitulate is a political one. Non-combatant nations make political decisions about support or non-support of the combatants. And the effects of war have political ramifications far beyond the battlefield.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

War is always political. They are started by politicians with political goals. The decision to resist or capitulate is a political one. Non-combatant nations make political decisions about support or non-support of the combatants. And the effects of war have political ramifications far beyond the battlefield.

Yes it is, but we don't want the finger pointing rhetoric that is dividing people and causing the hate and problems.

There are other places for that. I'm sure you would like Truth Social for example (just assuming).

So, lets not ruin this. Not hard to understand.

 

[GTX]

Meanwhile:

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

and

EU Backs Off Russian Energy Price Cap - News From Antiwar.com

The European Union is backing off its sharply divisive plan to implement a price cap on Russian gas, according to Reuters. There were major concerns leading up to an emergency meeting of EU energy ministers in Brussels on Friday, but the overriding fear was Moscow would respond by cutting all…

news.antiwar.com

and

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

And

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Not to mention Kharkov energy grid shut down 100% except for candles and coal fires.

Folks, do not bring sunshine and unicorns to global hunger, disease and looming Depression crisis. Hoard your ARs and ammo and MREs and water supply. Be prepared and hope that this will all blow over rather than blow down. In Texas, the oft forgotten phrase "Save yer Confederate mone boys, the South will rise again", is taking on new meaning.

Oops not talking about rest of West - only Switzerland has ARs at home (or FNs, whatever).

Just to highlight where this is all coming from:

Zero Hedge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A conspiracy theory pushing, radical right-wing extremist and pro-Russian group banned in multiple places. I don't think there is a place for them here.

 

[GTX]

Ukrainian troops say they have recaptured more than 20 towns, reached the Russian border

The Ukrainian armed forces says its troops have liberated more than 20 settlements in the past day, while Britain's defence ministry says the area recaptured is at least twice the size of Greater London.

www.abc.net.au

 

[GTX]

Widespread blackouts as Ukraine accuses Russia of attacking power grid in revenge for offensive

Ukraine accuses Russian forces of attacking civilian infrastructure in response to a rapid weekend offensive by Ukrainian troops that drove Russia to abandon its main bastion in the Kharkiv region.

www.abc.net.au

 

[GTX]

 

[Admiral Beez]

What would have caused this crash? Air disturbance from the surviving aircraft?

 

[Admiral Beez]

 

[Glider]

What would have caused this crash? Air disturbance from the surviving aircraft?

Certainly could have flown into the slipstream

 

[GrauGeist]

What would have caused this crash? Air disturbance from the surviving aircraft?

Perhaps accurate ground fire?

They were certainly flying low and slow enough for someone to take several shots at the cockpit.

 

[Escuadrilla Azul]

What would have caused this crash? Air disturbance from the surviving aircraft?

Engine failure? Before the crash seems that no smoke is coming from them.

 

[Denniss]

didn't they touch with their wings in-air?

 

[Glider]

They had just taken off so I would guess that groundfire is unlikely and both aircraft seem to have Smokey engines.

 

[Greg Boeser]

I'm sure you would like Truth Social for example (just assuming)

Don't assume.

 

[GrauGeist]

They had just taken off so I would guess that groundfire is unlikely and both aircraft seem to have Smokey engines.

Ok, I can't see much on this %&#$ phone...

 

[Escuadrilla Azul]

They had just taken off so I would guess that groundfire is unlikely and both aircraft seem to have Smokey engines.

To me it looks like no smoke in this frame, but could be my phone, the phone recording the T/O.

Guess we will never know:

 

[FLYBOYJ]

What would have caused this crash? Air disturbance from the surviving aircraft?

It's called "wake turbulence." In a two ship take off of the same aircraft, very doubtful and it doesn't look like he was even in a position to pick up any wake turbulence. I watched this several times and it seems the aircraft that crashed pitched up momentarily and then lowered his nose before turning crosswind. We can speculate all day but there seems to be no obvious reason for this from what I've seen.

 

[drgondog]

The language in the antiwar.com article is interesting...."NATO's proxy war in Ukraine" and "anti-Russian sanctions blitz." Funny how sites like that seem only to be anti-war if it's the West doing ANYTHING. Western nations wouldn't be providing the arms into Ukraine if Russia hadn't invaded in the first place.

It's also amazing how inflation "plagues" the US and the West but somehow doesn't affect Russia ("The campaign has backfired with the ruble rallying against the dollar and mounting inflation plaguing the United States and Europe").

Rather like the EurAsian Times news site, antiwar.com seems to be a mouthpiece for Russian propaganda rather than truly believing in it's website name.

I read them all - or most. Guadian, Epoch Times, NYT, RT, AntiWar, Washingon Examiner, Gateway Pundit, etc,etc.

What I find disturbing is that a.) they can't ALL be right, b.) sunshine and unicorns for 'our side' turns into spin to explain what goes wrong.

Equally disturbing is that media centers are cheerleading or supporting one side based on facts, opinions based on facts, opinions with no facts and just raw unalduterated Pravda type BS. Most media outlets in our country have abandoned great investigative journalism.

To Be Clear - I do not in any way support Putin. That said, my cherry regading pristine and pure Ukraine was popped a very long time ago.

I do have some insight to the weapons we (and NATO) ar supplying Ukraine. I also understand that I and all other taxpayers are paying for Raytheon, Boeing, etc. with no real debate while we drain our own 'go to war' inventory as if there are no threats on the horizon, and we have infnite time and resources to spool up.

Chris - I will stand down in respect of 'no politics' - but what we are seeing unfold is ALL politics - defined as the acquisition and control of power.

The 'explosion' in my opinion is coming - whether nuclear war, or at least use thereof for limited purposes - or hunger and rage by the People over the over-reach of their respective governments.

 

[fubar57]

Engine failure? Before the crash seems that no smoke is coming from them.

There seems to be an extra puff of exhaust smoke at about the 12-14 second mark

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Don't assume.

I honestly try not to, but its very easy to do (about everyone, me included) based on typical posts made here. Please don't take it personal.